The GT-R's ability to last in an enduro has no relevance to the street car as the race car will have race parts and it will not weigh the same just like any other race car. The likelyhood of a 3800lb street car being entered into Leman is zero. There are rumors that the LFA will be racing though, not sure how closelt it will resemble the street car, but if it is the street car, still no match for an RSR,F430 GT or anything else for that matter.


Anyone with commona sense would know that the street version of the GT-R could not run with a GT3 for an enduro length session. In fact, there isnt a better suited showroom stock car to go straight to a race IMO.

 

I don't know how to sum this up....bottom line ...its a Datsun, training with porsche TT. I don't see it as a race car and we all know that there is no Substitute...

 

Wondered what it would take to make you put that GT2 down for a sec...

I'd like to think both GT2 and GTR can survive one trackday with a couple of novices. No doubt the Porsche would have less wear & tear, being 400lbs lighter.

You know me, I think all 911s are overpriced, and an RS isn't worth anywhere near it's asking price IMHO. Best priced 911 is the regular GT3 @ $106k; best 911, I imagine, is the GT2.

The GTR doesn't detract from the GT2, just Porsche's pricing.

 

Faster or not a Porsche is always a Porsche...and I will never stop myself saying that!

 

I love the new 997 GT2, but it does not seem to drive like a track car out-of-the-box IMHO.

Also, someone commented that the GT3 RS is overpriced. Well, they all are - look at the prices of the new GT2? Also, having driven the 997 GT3 and the 997 GT3 RS on the track on many occasions, the latter is much faster, and many folks buy the GT3 RS as a so-called 'investment'. Hence its inflated price.

Who cares about the Nissan? They seem to have done a good engineering job, but it looks like a donkey. There are always faster cars out there - the 956 did the Nurburgring in something like 6:16, and that was a long time ago. So, there is still a great deal left on the table for next generation supercars.

 

So let me get this, you are saying you could go faster with less driving skills in a GTR because the car handles well and is fast. Well I would rather go fast in a slow car then go fast in a fast car, because i am trying to improve my driving skill. Anyone can go fast in a fast car.

 

So by that logic, the GT-R detracts from Ferrari, Aston, Lambo, Mercedes, BMW, and esentially anything in the 100k and up range that has a sporty/gt type focus?

I think not.

You guys are taking this for face value which it's not. A GT2 will run circles around a GT-R. Evo mag drivers just suck. Had they driven the 997 GT3 without drifting it, it would have gone faster than the GT-R.

 

God, I would hope so.

 

WORDDDDDDDDDDD!

 

I dont get it. A GT-R barely beats a GT3 in most of the evaluations I have seen. We would expect the GT2 to beat a GT3 by seconds, or more. THEN a GT2 only beats the GT-R by
.1 seconds? Something here makes no sense to me at all.

 

You see that all the time. Different tracks, different drivers with different talents, different agendas, etc. Another good example is where they show the R8 being an almost dead heat w/ the C2S in one Top Gear review, and then the R8 being an almost dead heat w/ the GT3 in a subsequent review. It's all nonsense unless it's the same driver, same track, same day, same conditions, and same amount of seat time in each car.

 

Precisely. But this is magazine mathematics.

 

GT2 all the way. Let's not forget which one is more exotic looking also. Let's take them to the drag track now, how about with my car.

 

What I expect to see was the GT2 DESTROY a GT-R in any situation. Straight away, the Ring, Daytona, where-ever when-ever.

 

Thank you very much, I agree with all your thoughts.