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Neil,
i thought all RS have PCCB??

 

Apparently, as Mr. RS on the board previously stated, they were in fact an option. If you look at the pics on Porsche's site (with the woman driving) you will notice that they are non-PCCBs. Would've thought they would have been standard to save weight, though.

David

 

Amir, How does the CGT perform on the street? How is the clutch? Is it as tough as people say? Is it too low? Does it scrap?

I was considering this car but have been scared away by all the bad info.

BTW beautiful stable.

 

:bowdown:

That's a "Justification for Higher Education" poster if I ever saw one!

 

NoMercy,

I love everything about this car even its little "annoyances".

On the street, the ride is surprisingly better than my Stradale. The clutch takes about 5-10 minutes to get used to and yes the front is very low and long (overhang wise). If the driveway is wide enough where you can go in sideways then you should be okay. If it's a narrow driveway with even a small dip in it then you are in trouble.

Overall, DO NOT be persuaded by anyone elses experience. I know it's difficult but try and get a test drive in one and if you can walk away from the drive not being mesmorized by this car's abilities then I'll be extremely surprised.

Amir

 

Thanks!!

 

Amir, I know what you mean, but your wording brought a smile to my face...going into a driveway "sideways" in a CGT, I'd buy tickets to that.

Gary

 

hey amir tell that to ben.lj... i think he was diswayed by the rumors and stories he heard from people

 

Is RUF going to build a CGT too?

 

I'm sure Ben can (and will) speak for himself, but he did drive the CGT before deciding.

Gary

 

I didn't hear rumors or stories but instead drove one for about an hour through the city, highway, and aggressively through the back roads. Unlike Amir, I think the Stradale rides considerably better than the CGT, but the ride didn't bother me in the CGT at all - though it did Nick. What he said about "If it's a narrow driveway with even a small dip in it then you are in trouble" unfortunately describes my position exactly. One side of my driveway is fine into one side of the garage. However, the lift side where my cars go (so the baby and hopefully her sibbling one day don't have to cross that side to get in the house) has a dip in the driveway into a drain which is likely going to more than bottom out the car. If I put the CGT on the other side, then my wife's car will have to stay out which is not the coolest thing when it comes to groceries, rain, etc. We recently completed a 3 year remodel (1 1/2 years of construction), and the garage was designed around me having one side with two cars on it via the lift and the other side being for her. All of the structural work and other lift preparation are on my side!

 

I've never spoken to Ben but from what I've read I think his main frustration is with the uncomfortable ride height. I think if he gave the clutch another shot he'd get used to it but you can't blame the guy if he won't be able to put the car in his garage. Personally after driving it I'd sell my house and move but I'm sick like that.

I do think it sucks that his dealer won't give him his deposit back but my dealer warned me at the very beginning that it was a non-refundable deposit and even went as far as to write on my contract. I know of some dealers who did refund the deposit which I thought was pretty cool. Unfortunately for Ben, I guess he got one of the uncool ones.

All of this non-sense could have been prevented if Porsche would have let prospective buyers drive the cars in Leipzig. Even if they were afraid to let people drive them on the track, there were plenty of little side roads at the factory that would have worked without people going hog wild. I mean how much more commitment do they want, a $50K deposit years before production and flying half way across the world is not considered serious?

Anyways, I hope it all works out for him in the end whether he keeps it or sells it.

Amir

 

Ben,

You chimed in before I finished my response. I've noticed that the Stradale and the CGT have similar rides in regular mode but once you press the Race button then the CS is a bit stiffer. But at least you have the option of taking it out of race mode which makes it more tolerable on crappy L.A. freeways. The only thing that I don't like on the regular mode though is the lazier shifts. Now if they could only separate the two that would be perfection.

Amir

 

Yep, the lazy shifts SUCK in non-RACE mode. The only time I don't have it in race mode is leaving and entering my neighborhood where the streets are hilly and suck. The race mode allows me to avoid bottoming out. Personally I find the CGT ride more comparable to that of race mode on the Stradale.

Yep again in that after taking the time and trouble to go all the way to Leipzig for a demonstration of the car, the least they could have done was let us drive it - a little - in situations more reflective of their "everyday supercar" claims. The track "ride" just didn't give us much information. You're right in that I really do think I can get used to the clutch (like I'm "used to" the heinous hesitation in our Cayenne TT) and I'm optimistic that the rear sway bar settings can be adjusted (after removing the rumored 128 nuts!) to kill the lateral hop which is prevelant during hard cornering on uneven pavement. The ride height is the major killer for me. Porsche told a guy I know they had a 3/4" raise kit which didn't negatively affect performance in the least. After they failed to produce it, he sold his. The only other thing about the car that I don't like (but will deal with) is the lack of knee room created by that all consuming sloped center console. Compare that to the open area in the similarly wide Stradale and you'll see what I mean. The Stradale (or any 360 for that matter) is a very comfortable car (I'm not a giant or fat either - 6'0/185 ish) whereas the CGT does get a bit tiring with the lack of lateral leg movement.