CGT used as daily driver for sale
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My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
I've often marvelled how you Brits tend to use your cars as opposed to North Americans tend to preserve them for the next guy.Originally Posted by pressing
Well said.My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
CGT combines the best of Ferrari thrills with German engineering.
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My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
Now that is what the car was intended to do. Nice job!Originally Posted by pressing
Well said.My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
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20k track miles is not nearly the same as 20k street miles. you also just don't know how the car has been tweaked if it's been on track a lot.Originally Posted by speedoflight
geee... why does everyone automatically scream foul if the car has been tracked. it's not a lambo where most owners buy it for chick bait. it's a freakin' porsche. it's a 4yr old car w/ 20k mi. that's relatively low miles to me. as for the price being too high or just right, well i don't know. can't afford it either way.
that's not why people get bent out of shape (folks tend to somehow assume track = abuse), but it definitely should factor into the price.
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that's not why people get bent out of shape (folks tend to somehow assume track = abuse), but it definitely should factor into the price.
a tracked car with PROPER car is better than a street car with same mileage. sure the paint will have more chips here and there, but mechanically, most serious track drivers will maintain their car to the nth degree. Originally Posted by mousecatcher
20k track miles is not nearly the same as 20k street miles. you also just don't know how the car has been tweaked if it's been on track a lot.that's not why people get bent out of shape (folks tend to somehow assume track = abuse), but it definitely should factor into the price.
my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
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my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
Originally Posted by mooty
a tracked car with PROPER car is better than a street car with same mileage. sure the paint will have more chips here and there, but mechanically, most serious track drivers will maintain their car to the nth degree. my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
+1 I agree. My acquaintances always say either i dont give the oil and oil filter time to break in and that i should phone them when i change my oil since its still reusuable to their standards
I think maint is key on a car in making sure its serviced well. I always have said theris two diffs type of mind sets when driving hard. Theirs the ones that abuse the car, and the ones who drive thier cars at the limit. Two diff things!
If the housing market wasn't in the tank I would consider purchasing this car at $250K!! That's 12K less miles than I have on my GT3!!
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my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
Originally Posted by mooty
a tracked car with PROPER car is better than a street car with same mileage. sure the paint will have more chips here and there, but mechanically, most serious track drivers will maintain their car to the nth degree. my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
I'm not sure I'd go along with this line of reasoning. (although it's probably what I'd say if I sold a lot of tracked cars
.) I'd put a track mile at about 10 street miles re wear and tear on the car. Anally adhered to maintenance schedules no doubt helps a car tolerate the rigors of tracking with out failure, but there is still a huge difference in in the amount of strain on the components. Wheel bearings, brakes, heim joints, differential, gearbox, clutch and motor all see significant increases in wear when driven at or near the limit of the car. Pound many curbs? Then expect some rattles.I'm sure not anti tracking, but I would expect to take a bigger hit selling a car I'd tracked a lot.
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My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
way to go pressing! kudos to you for actually using the car. sure beats putting cash in a briefcase and letting it lose some its value while in storage then having the next guy buy the lot for less.Originally Posted by pressing
Well said.My own CGT is now approaching 19k miles. I've done around 20 trackdays, run the car on slicks and I can tell you in every regard the car feels precisely as it did when I bought it nearly 3 years ago.
The car is so massively over-engineered provided that the servicing is kept up to date and you have a degree of sympathy the car will soak up this kind of use no problem.
Sure the price is perhaps a bit strong and you'd have thought the owner would have had the damaged wheel replaced but for the right price is would allow someone to actually use the car and enjoy it rather than worrying about the mileage and value!
It's tragic very few of these cars really see any proper use:
Ive actually driven that EXACT car, know the owner, who has been taking care of the car, who is selling the car and some great guys who have driven the car (ex randy pobst). This is definitely not going to win a beauty contest, but this car is mechanically incredible and very well maintained. Still one of the coolest cars I have ever driven.
It would seem that someone who can afford a CGT, can afford the depreciation for driving it regularly. I'm a firm believer if you own a car, drive it. I'm not one for garage queens. I had a 993 Turbo, and when I sold it it had 17,000 miles on it in a little over 2 years - the depreciation was worth the constant smile on my face when I drove it!!
I truly believe that the CGT is the finest car ever made. Ever. Made. I hope some day to own own. That said, I'd be concerned about a car that was so heavily used, unless I had near infinite dollars. True, as one contributor cited, it may be that, as a track(ed) car, it is better mechanically than any street car. OTOH, maybe not. And the cost of that variance on this car is enormous.
So it wouldn't be an issue of whether this car has been 'properly used' unlike many american garage queens (a comment I bristle at btw). It's the cost and risk involved. Simple as that.
Still the finest car ever made.
So it wouldn't be an issue of whether this car has been 'properly used' unlike many american garage queens (a comment I bristle at btw). It's the cost and risk involved. Simple as that.
Still the finest car ever made.
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my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do
My goodness. An RS for the track and a separate one for the street? I guess I should have known that this forum is where the big shots hang out. Originally Posted by mooty
a tracked car with PROPER car is better than a street car with same mileage. sure the paint will have more chips here and there, but mechanically, most serious track drivers will maintain their car to the nth degree. my track RS is much better cared for than my street RS. if i were to buy my own RS's, i would buy the one that i tracked. but then again, not everyone treat their cars as nicely as i do