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2010 gt3 ceramic brakes

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I am ready to purchase a new gt3. I have the choice of two cars, with and without ceramic brakes. I am a beleaver in unsprung weight = performance, but how much? Can someone who has driven both cars old or new please give me your " seat of the pants" opinion for both track and street. Are they a must have option?
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I have tried both brakes on the street and on the track. The PCCBs are fantastic. If you have a choice then go for YELLOW. Having said that, the cost of replacing them is something to take into consideration, however I understand that for every four changes of normal brakes one would changes the PCCBs. So unless for some reason (mostly defect not covered by the warranty, and that is a remote possibility), it would be cost effective as well to have the ceramic brakes. I would not hesitate. Lighter, more powerful and will not fail or fade.
 
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I've had great results with PCCBs. With very hEavy track use you would be best served using steel..
 
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Would the Brembo GTR brakes be a reasonable option for those that choose the steel but later want an upgrade in terms of performance and a significant unsprung weight reduction? Are the Brembo GTR brakes tolerable in the street?
 
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If you are not (really, honestly) going to track it all the time, and you don't mind the price difference, PCCB is awesome. I love mine and intentionally spec'ed my car with them. You are reducing weight where it matters most. No brake dust. Incredible feel.
 
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I bought my 10GT3 off the floor - so I may not have spent the money for yellow if I was checking boxes for the order.
After driving the car, even during break in, they are well worth the big price.
My first 911 -'71T - listed for over $2000 less than the PCCB option (I rather have a new '71)!
 
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Originally Posted by GTDeux View Post
PCCB is worth every penny. Especially the Gen 3 in 380mm!!!
Are the new 2010 GT3 PCCB's really a new generation? Last model GT3 had 380mm PCCB's too. Only the iron rotors grew with the 2010 GT3 (now same sizes as PCCB).
 
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When I was looking at the car on the floor, I made the comment about the horror stories on replacement of PCCB's.
My dealer said these were 4th generation = 80,000 mile brakes. I'm sure it was a bit of puff, but he was assuring me the problem have been addressed.
 
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Originally Posted by bkcarrera View Post
When I was looking at the car on the floor, I made the comment about the horror stories on replacement of PCCB's.
My dealer said these were 4th generation = 80,000 mile brakes. I'm sure it was a bit of puff, but he was assuring me the problem have been addressed.
I think even the Gen 1 PCCB's (from 2002 GT2) can do 80k miles. Just not 80k hard miles (with lots of track use). Saying the brakes are 80,000 mile brakes means nothing, unless they are unconditionally warrantied for that period (despite track use).
 
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Are the new 2010 GT3 PCCB's really a new generation? Last model GT3 had 380mm PCCB's too. Only the iron rotors grew with the 2010 GT3 (now same sizes as PCCB).

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You're correct, the PCCB's did not grow in size. The only changes that I am aware of are the lighter carriers and different fasteners. Although, the irons' weigh less than their predecessor, the disparity in weight between the newest irons and the relative PCCB's has remained basically the same, as each has been treated with the new lighter carriers/hubs.
 
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Originally Posted by 911dev View Post
Grant,
You're correct, the PCCB's did not grow in size. The only changes that I am aware of are the lighter carriers and different fasteners. Although, the irons' weigh less than their predecessor, the disparity in weight between the newest irons and the relative PCCB's has remained basically the same, as each has been treated with the new lighter carriers/hubs.
That's what I thought. So, there is no reason to believe that the newest PCCB's would be any more resilient in the face of track use than the PCCB's that were used in the 2007 GT3, is there?
 
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That's what I thought. So, there is no reason to believe that the newest PCCB's would be any more resilient in the face of track use than the PCCB's that were used in the 2007 GT3, is there?
None, imo.
 
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Originally Posted by bkcarrera View Post
When I was looking at the car on the floor, I made the comment about the horror stories on replacement of PCCB's.
My dealer said these were 4th generation = 80,000 mile brakes. I'm sure it was a bit of puff, but he was assuring me the problem have been addressed.
Typical sales guy BS. The rotors themselves are Gen. II. The entire assembly may be considered Gen. III, but that's really pushing it.

There is nothing NOT to love about PCCB's, other than the cost of admission, the very poor residuals and the chance of a major check book catastrophy if the rotors are damged (anytime) or wear prematurely out of warranty. If money were no object, I'd have them.
 
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No brake dust= no brainer!!!!!
 

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