street Pccb pads on track = no no (if you are up to speed)
p50 on street = no no (never get heat into them)

Pccb at the track -
changing wheels... be careful not to chip that rotor which on my RS is 380mm and I am running 18 inch rims... very little clearance
trip off track... be careful not to have hard debris (gravel etc) hit those precious rotors or get debris stuck in there and groove one of the rotors

tracking them with the right pads can be done easily... I just think the risk (replacement costs if caused by careless wheel changes or a debris filled off) are worth the reward of essentially no brake dust...

iron brakes and use the money saved for a set of track wheels/tires/pads and a guard replacement diff since your factory diff will be shot after 5 track days

the benefits of Pccb are best experienced on the street - longevity, lightweight, and almost dustless...

for me the tipping point is roughly 20 hrs per year of track time... if you are doing significantly more than 20 hours per year, pccbs, IMHO, are not worth it.

it can be done, I just feel that the risk of accidental damage is not worth the reward for track driving... for that matter I submit there is no Pccb reward in de track driving

 

I don't see what the point of them are.... And I've driven ceramics on a track. GT3 steel brakes are amazing. I drive to and from the track on stock pads and rotors. I then beat the **** out of the brakes all day. They stop like all get out with zero fade and then I drive home on them. I do not see the point of buying ceramics to begin with and their replacement costs are absurd! If money was no object the gee wiz factor is pretty cool. For the rest of us... I could probably buy 10 complete sets of iron rotors and pads for the cost of getting the PCCB's and replacing them once.

And quite honestly, how many of us are really going to use the ever so slight extra performance out of them anyway? I know somebody who can run sebring in 2:20 flat in a stock RS with street R compound tires. I'm not even going to think about modding my 3 until I'm within a second of his time. For now I'm going to continue trying to mod the tard behind the wheel

 

^^This man speaks the truth^^

Our experience with Ceramics on GT3's driven at 8/10th or greater has been uniformly horrible. We switch everyone to steel. We can cook the PCCB's with Pagid Yellows all day long. Mushy unpredictable braking...no thanks.

Of course, for street use they are pretty nice and significantly reduce dust. I have not experience any unusual noises with PCCB's on the street.

 

I ran Sebring in 2:19.5 in my stock RS with PCCB's.
The ceramics might be worth 1/2 second...

 

Jerome, we may have met in the parking lot at the hotel????

2:19.5 is absolutly stunning in a stock GT3RS....do you know Peter with the mat white GT3RS? He is on 18" RA1 Toyo's and with a race car instructor is doing 2:20's.

I guess the 19" wheels on Michelin Sport Cups is not as bad as some claim?

Back in April this year there was a guy in a race preped GT3 running Hoosier slicks doing 2:19's after his coach for the day helped him out.

You guys are a good 10 seconds faster than me in my Carrera S...my best is a 2:29

 

Hi,
If I remember correctly I think you are Mike?
I talked to Peter and we had a good time chasing each other on the track.
For clarification I ran under 2.20 at Sebring with some Hoosier R6 mounted on the stock 19" wheels

 

Yes I am Mike. R6's good to know.... Still an awesome time. I always have my red gloves ready for the point buy! LOL... See you all soon

 

the short answer is no-no worth the cost considering that the new iron brakes fill the wheelwell as nicely. Track and ceramics-definitely no unless you are made out of money. The steel stops the car just as well for street driving.

 

Donate them to me!

 

I think some drivers are quite hard on their equipment and for those the PCCBs are not recommended. If you are a more conservative driver who is willing to learn how to use the brakes properly on the track (as opposed to trying to maximize late braking aspects of each track at every possible moment) then the PCCBs are more than adequate for track driving. The novice drivers tend to ride their brakes often or over-apply their brakes at the end of the fast straights resulting in boiling their fluids (in systems where the brake system has lower thermal reserves, old brake fluids with too much moisture absorbed, etc). The advice given above by proponents of the steel brakes is correct and if I wasn't lucky to have had the choice made for me by the original owner of my car I probably would have ordered the car with steel rotors instead of PCCBs.

 

I'd sell the PCCB's and buy tires and consumables, or put them towards some JRZ's.