Hi. I'm new to the forum. I may have a chance to purchase a 2011 RS and wanted to get opinions whether the Ceramic brakes are worth the cost. I've just started doing track days this year and plan on tracking this car about 10X a year. I'll also drive the car in the city possibly 2K miles a year. I also plan to keep this car for the long term.

Thanks.

 

I have them and they are the best available today if you are careful to not damage them from not letting the pad material wear below 50% at the track. Definitely be prepared to replace pads after 10 track days. The front pads need to be flipped as they wear unevenly (after every 5 track days).

 

Save your money for another mod......or an aftermarket brake system (Stop Tech STR or Brembo)

The advantage was there on the 997.1 cars because the ceramic rotors are bigger, now they are same size.

I have a set from mine.....in a box......not sure what I will do with them

If you track with them, use P50 motorsports pads.....but you will have to change the pads on the street, the P50's are dangerous when not at temp

 

No brake dust on the rims with the PCCB's. I think its worth it just for that.

 

Unfortunately, this is not entirely the case. There's still some there, but far less than with steel. Did not show up as much on my 996 GT2 with black E99's but on my new .2 3RS, surprised it's more noticable on the red wheels.

 

if I street drove my car only......ceramics ar enice for no dust

if you track them they dust, just not as bad

 

are you guys with ceramics experiencing squeaking when driving on the street? yes/no?
.1 or .2 ?

 

With p50 squeal like pig

Stock pads quiet

 

Definitely not worth the $9k. Period.

 

no
$9k buys a lot of wheel cleanings

for track work they do not pass my risk/reward test AND I do not like changing pads between street and track... I swapped out my Pccb rotors to brembo type IIIs and pads to rs29 which I run all the time.

I think cl wheels and Pccb = track hassle

 

My thoughts were that I'd never drop $10k to replace the rotors when they wear out, so why bother paying $8k for the option? I know they're fantastic but there are plenty of more reasonably priced aftermarket alternatives.

 

Yes, they are worth it.

 

I disagree with the need to use P50 motorsports pads with PCCB rotors when tracking and the constant need to switch pads when not trailer-ing the car because the P50s are not usable on the street. Those that want to mod their GT3's to be like Cup cars for track driving would need to trailer their GT3 since any car set up for dedicated track driving would not be street-able. The GT3 exercise was developed by Porsche as a great compromise that provides track worthy capabilities that simultaneously allows the car to be driven to and from the tracks with only the use of the PASM sport selection button. The standard PCCB's as they were meant to be used addresses brake squeal, fade resistance, and temperature independence (consistent friction hot or cold), as well as dusting appearance regardless of how they are used. I really doubt that most of the people who feel the need for race mods are already at that level where they can drive the stock components at 100% of the systems capability before needing to move the goal posts or limitations to better stopping distances, later braking, etc. I've spoken to people who have switched to iron rotors and more aggressive race pads. When all is said and done the costs savings is not that much.

 

Thank you all for the feedback. Very helpful.

 

I have steels and have had many track days. I have never experienced the ceramics. Therefore I am biased. I think the steels are fantastic for DE's and track days. If I were actually "racing" I would go for the PCCB's. Since I'm an occasional track-dayer (6-10/ yr), steels work exceptionally well and would choose my PCCB expense elsewhere.