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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Anyone know whos GT3 this is? SCCA AUTOCROSS

If you know this car, any more info about the car/driver/location?
 
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I'm going to take a guess that it's Monty Pack. What are you trying to figure out specifically?

EDIT: Scratch that. Monty's car is silver.
 
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I believe it is Gary Thomason whom is a past National Champ, if I am not mistaken. Not sure where it was shot.

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I want to ask him about his wheels setup. Those are CCW Classic. I hear they run 18x12 on NB 996. I'd like to know if those are 18x12 and the offset. If you have any info please let me know thanks guys!
 
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CCW are great people to work with. Give them a ring.

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+1.. Just call them
 
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SS = Super Stock class.
 
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Originally Posted by Nine_Eleven
I want to ask him about his wheels setup. Those are CCW Classic. I hear they run 18x12 on NB 996. I'd like to know if those are 18x12 and the offset. If you have any info please let me know thanks guys!
If the car is in Super Stock, the wheels have to be OEM sizes with a +/- of 6.35mm offset.
 
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Originally Posted by smf32s
I believe it is Gary Thomason whom is a past National Champ, if I am not mistaken. Not sure where it was shot.

Stu
Good eye - that is in fact my car, with the pic taken at the 2008 SCCA Solo National Championships held in Topeka Kansas. I managed to win the Super Stock class championship that year over 56 fellow SS competitors in Vipers, Corvette Z06's and Lotus Elises.


I did not run the car at the Nationals in 2009 or 2010, but will run it this year again. SS allows cat back exhaust (I run a Cargraphic), shocks (Moton), and any alignment, but pretty much everything else has to be stock spec. Those are CCW Classics in the stock sizes. I have however considered taking the car to a class that allows considerably more modifications (ASP), so I also would be very interested to hear backspace specs for a 18x12 rear that will clear everything......
 
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Originally Posted by ssgt3
Good eye - that is in fact my car, with the pic taken at the 2008 SCCA Solo National Championships held in Topeka Kansas. I managed to win the Super Stock class championship that year over 56 fellow SS competitors in Vipers, Corvette Z06's and Lotus Elises.


I did not run the car at the Nationals in 2009 or 2010, but will run it this year again. SS allows cat back exhaust (I run a Cargraphic), shocks (Moton), and any alignment, but pretty much everything else has to be stock spec. Those are CCW Classics in the stock sizes. I have however considered taking the car to a class that allows considerably more modifications (ASP), so I also would be very interested to hear backspace specs for a 18x12 rear that will clear everything......
Good thing I found you. I wanted to ask you about your CCW Classic. Because I talk to John (CCW) and said that 18x12 +63mm with 8.98" backspacing is used on GT3's alot. I'm interested in the wheels. But I have to call him back because it has a different fitting on regular 911, like mine. I would like to run 18x12 but will settle with 11 or 11.5. By the way since your CCW Classic has the stock specs, would that be 18x11?

Do you have anymore pictures of your car with the CCW Classic? You can email it to me at sweat2breathe@yahoo.com. Thanks man!
 
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...and any alignment...
Are you allowed to run shims in SS?
 
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Originally Posted by Nine_Eleven
Good thing I found you. I wanted to ask you about your CCW Classic. Because I talk to John (CCW) and said that 18x12 +63mm with 8.98" backspacing is used on GT3's alot. I'm interested in the wheels. But I have to call him back because it has a different fitting on regular 911, like mine. I would like to run 18x12 but will settle with 11 or 11.5. By the way since your CCW Classic has the stock specs, would that be 18x11?

Do you have anymore pictures of your car with the CCW Classic? You can email it to me at sweat2breathe@yahoo.com. Thanks man!
The 996 GT3 has pretty much the same body as your car, with the main relevant difference here being that I'm pretty sure the GT3 fender lips are rolled slightly more than yours. Was John talking 996 GT3 or 997 GT3? Unless you are racing yours I would probably just stick with 18x11. The 8.5 and 11" 996 GT3 wheel offsets like mine should bolt right on. I want to run a 315/30-18 rear tire, which is a little better on a 18x12.

Here is a better pic of the wheels:
 
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Originally Posted by loworbitsi
Are you allowed to run shims in SS?
Yes - because of the way shims are described in the shop manual, they are legal in SCCA stock class competition. Ironically, a subtle difference in the language used in the manual means rotating the strut tops is not legal in stock. Also not legal is the alternate adjustable control arm caster bushing that really should be used with the shims, so caster goes way up if you add much shim. The only real problem with that is reduced tire clearance in the front of the wheel well.

The V710 really only wants about -2.2 camber in front (Hoosiers need more), so you can get close to that in a GT3 without shims.
 
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Originally Posted by ssgt3
Yes - because of the way shims are described in the shop manual, they are legal in SCCA stock class competition. Ironically, a subtle difference in the language used in the manual means rotating the strut tops is not legal in stock. Also not legal is the alternate adjustable control arm caster bushing that really should be used with the shims, so caster goes way up if you add much shim. The only real problem with that is reduced tire clearance in the front of the wheel well.

The V710 really only wants about -2.2 camber in front (Hoosiers need more), so you can get close to that in a GT3 without shims.
I know that in Appendix F of the rule book, there's specifics that say that the rotation of the tops are NOT legal. But good info on the shims, and the rest of the setup.
 
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