Should I upgrade from 3.8GT3RS to 4.0RS?
It makes no financial sense, since if you wait 5 years the delta between yours and a used 4.0 will be smaller and you'll still have a collectible car (we think).
This is an emotional decision. We won't talk you into it, or out of it. I think you already know what you're going to do.
Let us know once the deal, errr....decision is made.
This is an emotional decision. We won't talk you into it, or out of it. I think you already know what you're going to do.
Let us know once the deal, errr....decision is made.
I know I already chimed in, but I just wanted to point a few things out. As for whether or not the 991's going to "lose some of it's soul", us air cooled guys thought exactly the same thing which is why the 993 held it's value quite well and ended up being the pinnacle of the air-cooled cars. The 996 grew in size, the motor's were nolonger true drysump with the exceptions of the GT and turbo cars. Now that the water cooled cars have been in existence for quite a while and the performance and comfort has all been upgraded, even the most devout Porsche purists are coming around and accepting the water-cooled cars as "true Porsche's". Now why am I bringing this all up? Because it's the same people who think the 991 is going to destroy the pure sporting aspect of the marquee that thought the 996 was going to destroy it.
The 997 does have an absurd amount of "Special Edition's" for upcoming the end of model. However, the GT3RS 4.0 is the only one that actually is offering an engine that's different than ever offered in any street model and is a direct tie in with the GT3RSR based on the displacement, therefore may become quite collectible years down the road. That being said, look at the 996 GT2, those were produced in extremely low numbers, and for a car that stickered new starting at 190K, you can find them for about 80K, give or take a few thousand now. Maybe 20 years down the road, we'll be kicking ourselves for not buying one for under 100K and maybe 30 years from now, we'll be talking about them in the same breath as the famed '73 Carrera RS. But for now, it's proven that Exclusivity (the extremely expensive price tag when new) combined with rarity (numbers produced) doesn't always produce a collector's car.
Why are some cars collectible and others not? In the case of the Carrera RS, it was the fact that it was a homolagation special. They needed to produce 500 of them to qualify for a certain class of racing. The GT3 RS 4.0 doesn't fall under that catagory, but it does use parts directly from Porsche's Motorsport program which is a good reason that it may become collectible as opposed to say a GTS or Black Edition. It's the only currently produced Porsche street car that is directly tied to the storied racing program, that in itself may make it collectible to Porsche Collectors.
The 997 does have an absurd amount of "Special Edition's" for upcoming the end of model. However, the GT3RS 4.0 is the only one that actually is offering an engine that's different than ever offered in any street model and is a direct tie in with the GT3RSR based on the displacement, therefore may become quite collectible years down the road. That being said, look at the 996 GT2, those were produced in extremely low numbers, and for a car that stickered new starting at 190K, you can find them for about 80K, give or take a few thousand now. Maybe 20 years down the road, we'll be kicking ourselves for not buying one for under 100K and maybe 30 years from now, we'll be talking about them in the same breath as the famed '73 Carrera RS. But for now, it's proven that Exclusivity (the extremely expensive price tag when new) combined with rarity (numbers produced) doesn't always produce a collector's car.
Why are some cars collectible and others not? In the case of the Carrera RS, it was the fact that it was a homolagation special. They needed to produce 500 of them to qualify for a certain class of racing. The GT3 RS 4.0 doesn't fall under that catagory, but it does use parts directly from Porsche's Motorsport program which is a good reason that it may become collectible as opposed to say a GTS or Black Edition. It's the only currently produced Porsche street car that is directly tied to the storied racing program, that in itself may make it collectible to Porsche Collectors.
Last edited by ScottKelly911; May 30, 2011 at 12:06 AM.
I am getting it for the 4.0L OEM motor. That's about it for me. It will be just another race car that I can drive on the street, but a track car first.
-Troy
-Troy
Last edited by Glock Guru; Jun 5, 2011 at 09:06 AM.
Unless you have absurd amounts of money - cars are just depreciating fun toys. To buy one to collect is absurd. Buy a 1973 RS if thats what you're going to do. Or an old Ferrari. I'm 47 in 25 years time, I will be 73. So i need to wait 25 years for this to be worth something - WTF. Plenty of things that are better "investments" or better "collectibles".
Back to the question. It sounds like a GT3RS is a fun weekend thing for you. Why do you need to spend $70K extra for something thats a little better than an awesome car you already have? Its not like your trying to extract lap times or you're crazed about it. If its not a collectible or a track beast (you need the fastest), then why do it. In 2-3 years, you can buy a better car. Not more collectible - better. You just got the RS - enjoy it. Its awesome.
My 2 c
Back to the question. It sounds like a GT3RS is a fun weekend thing for you. Why do you need to spend $70K extra for something thats a little better than an awesome car you already have? Its not like your trying to extract lap times or you're crazed about it. If its not a collectible or a track beast (you need the fastest), then why do it. In 2-3 years, you can buy a better car. Not more collectible - better. You just got the RS - enjoy it. Its awesome.
My 2 c
I had bought a 2010 c2s in Jan. Sold it for a positive delta of $2k. In April bought a cpo 2010 gt3 with 700 miles at a 15 k discount of msrp and an awesome car.
I truly believe the 991 will be shunned by purest bc of weight and size.
I think as long as u have a 997 gen gt3 or even better 997.2 gt3 bc of production #s.
I think the 3.8 cars will hold a premium in the future.
Good luck.
Life is short spend that paper!!
I truly believe the 991 will be shunned by purest bc of weight and size.
I think as long as u have a 997 gen gt3 or even better 997.2 gt3 bc of production #s.
I think the 3.8 cars will hold a premium in the future.
Good luck.
Life is short spend that paper!!
I had bought a 2010 c2s in Jan. Sold it for a positive delta of $2k. In April bought a cpo 2010 gt3 with 700 miles at a 15 k discount of msrp and an awesome car.
I truly believe the 991 will be shunned by purest bc of weight and size.
I think as long as u have a 997 gen gt3 or even better 997.2 gt3 bc of production #s.
I think the 3.8 cars will hold a premium in the future.
Good luck.
Life is short spend that paper!!
I truly believe the 991 will be shunned by purest bc of weight and size.
I think as long as u have a 997 gen gt3 or even better 997.2 gt3 bc of production #s.
I think the 3.8 cars will hold a premium in the future.
Good luck.
Life is short spend that paper!!
Becoming a doctor is a long and challenging program for which relatively few people are sufficiently intelligent or capable of completing. I'm envious of anyone who earns the degree and practice but pleased that so many good and qualified people choose this path. So when it comes time to buying something that you really want, can afford and plan to keep, surely you've earned it.
All of the capitulating commentary to the contrary, the 4.0 is a cool and likely valuable car that must be an absolute hoot to drive. And I suspect it's that same crowd who would gladly do the swap if they could realistically do so.
So enjoy, and get on with it!
Rich
All of the capitulating commentary to the contrary, the 4.0 is a cool and likely valuable car that must be an absolute hoot to drive. And I suspect it's that same crowd who would gladly do the swap if they could realistically do so.
So enjoy, and get on with it!

Rich
Exactly. This is the only reason to buy the car. It's for the 4.0L engine. I just bought the 3.8 and knew the 4.0 was coming. I'm not filthy rich so the 3.8 will suffice. Now if I were filthy rich then I'd get a ferrari and the 4.0. If I were only a little bit rich, then I'd get the Ferrari.




