GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

Should I upgrade from 3.8GT3RS to 4.0RS?

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Old May 8, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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Cool Should I upgrade from 3.8GT3RS to 4.0RS?

Have a grey/red 2010 GT3RS 2900 miles and am tempted by the limited edition 4.0. Have a deposit on one at msrp. Know it doesn't make good $ sense(I work hard for my money as a doctor) but life is short. Assuming I sell mine for upper 130's delta is around 70k after taxes etc. Hear that 126 only are coming in to US. Is the 4.0 going to be that special/unique of a car as time goes on? Will it reasonably hold value? Will the next generation 911 be that much better or will the GT3 lose something? Know it really belongs on the track but I am just a weekend driver that loves and appreciates the feel (and look) of these cars. Please advise...
 
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As you know life is short, if you like it and can swing it then I say buy it. Will it hold it's value? Who knows. Will you want the 911? Could be but you can always sell the 4.0.
 
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The new 911 it should read.
 
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3.8L RS will not sell for 130 i assure you that. i sold two and know of 8 sold by friends.

4.0L will hold value after ten years. but not in the immediate future
 
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If you can, do it!
 
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I say do it man,how many other people will be able to say that they have a rs 4.0
 
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If you got the $$$$ get one.
 
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I would do it

I mean it is a factory warrantied 500 naturally aspirated horsepower piece of perfection (save for centerlocks and horrible graphics)...
 
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What you have is great, but if money is no object then get it.
 
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I don't know if you should. If money is no object be my guest Sure the performance upgrade is there, but how would you notice it? Do you track?

A 3.8L RS would be more than amazing! If I were you I'd keep the 3.8L RS and get a 996 GT3, strip it and make it a track car
 
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If you want the latest and fastest go for it, the last GT3 cars were also "rare" and suppose to hold their value because of limited numbers. While they are better than other 911's they still depreciated. Plus there's the California "sales tax factor" and license fees adding 10% to cost of ownership. Does the new car get better gas mileage, maybe you can make up the loss with savings at the pump. Good luck.
 
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Personally, I think the 4.0 RS is going to be looked at with great fervor and years down the road will be quite collectible. But that's going to be quite a while and only if you're going to hold on to it. It's the last of a breed and has many firsts for a N/A 911 and the closest thing to a road legal track car that Porsche has ever produced (debateable, people must have forgot about the 904/906 when they said that, sheesh, know you're history people lol) with many of the parts straight from the Porsche Motorsport parts bins. I do think this is going to be one of those cars that 20-25 years from now when you see one at a car show, you may be saying: "Dang I almost bought one of those brand new, I should've..." That being said, the practical side says, you're going to take a bath on this transaction if you do it. first, you're going to take a huge hit on the price differential of what you paid for the car and what you'll be able to sell it for. Then there's the price differential between the 4.0 and the 3.8RS which will be quite significant. This price may be quite a bit more than advertised, cars like this may fetch 50K over list!!! The original 997 GT3RS was getting it, so there's no reason to think that this car wont. If you can get the dealer to put it in writing that they'll give it to you for list, then great it might be easier to make your decision. But good luck on that. These are all things to consider. Now, if money's not an issue and you can swing it, this car should be very special and I'd go for it. But the place to enjoy this car is going to be on the track so make a trip up the freeway and get on the track at The Streets Of Willow!
 
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I agree.. "if you can"... the last 997 GT3 RS and 1st 4.0 NA? close to an RSR? I think it'll hold it value very well...assuming you'd be willing to keep it a few years? Heck, at MSRP you may be able to flip it a few weeks after you buy it and make $.... and then re-buy a 3.8 lol
 
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Originally Posted by mooty
3.8L RS will not sell for 130 i assure you that. i sold two and know of 8 sold by friends.

4.0L will hold value after ten years. but not in the immediate future
As someone thinking about shopping for in the "old" 3.6 parts bin, what are the 3.8L going for these days? Maybe I should raise my sights and look for a 3.8 997.2 version. I am having trouble convincing myself the 3.6 would really be all that great performance step up from, say an Audi R8 V8 with Cup or equivalent tires ~ seems like more of a latteral move than a tremendous step forward.

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As someone thinking about shopping for in the "old" 3.6 parts bin, what are the 3.8L going for these days? Maybe I should raise my sights and look for a 3.8 997.2 version. I am having trouble convincing myself the 3.6 would really be all that great performance step up from, say an Audi R8 V8 with Cup or equivalent tires ~ seems like more of a latteral move than a tremendous step forward.

Thanks, Mike
I'd say the .2 GT3's would drop to $95k-$100k range in the next 6 months, not much depreciation. Since only 1XX 4.0L RS will be shipped to US, it won't alter the market so much. I don't think it will cause a dramatic drop in the pricing.

Ever since the R8 came out (V8) everyone was saying the engine was powerful but was missing the punch. Then when the V10 came the 2 extra cylinders took care of the missing part. Pretty much same with the GT3, the 3.6L engine is really strong for sure, but missing a little mid-range torque. This was cured with the 200cc enlargement in the engine.

I wouldn't call it a lateral movement since the GT3 weighs less than R8. Also you should factor in the AWD vs RWD. An RR car is harder to learn but makes the process much more fun GT3 is a much better track car.

The gap between a mkI and mkII (about $25k) is not likely to get smaller in anytime soon. So if you can stretch your budget then definitely go for a mkII the improvements are certainly there, but a mkI is definitely a more than a capable car.
 


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