GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

When are Porsche PCCB's NOT ENOUGH BRAKE?

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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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When are Porsche PCCB's NOT ENOUGH BRAKE?

Apparently, one of the lucky owners of the 600 GT3 4.0 RS models decided his stock Porsche ceramic brakes weren't enough to stop his rather rare bird.

I was at EVOMS last week and saw a beautiful rare 4.0 Liter RS in several layers of gray; it looked great. EVOMS changed out the original PCCB's for a LARGER SET OF BRAKES that just barely fit.


That's one set of brakes that are sought after even used. I was shocked to hear that the PCCB's weren't enough to slow that 4.0 RS down for the lucky owner.


I am not a fan of most of the newer paint schemes but this GT3 in what appeared to be triple gray looked like a car I would love. Just subtle yet hot. Understatement is certainly the way to go down public roads these days.

BTW, EVOMS is great outfit. Robert probably knows more about Porsches than any other specialty mechanic out there; he's more of an engineer.
 

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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Some that track their car will remove the PCCB's as they are prohibitive to track from an economic standpoint. Other than that, I don't see why you would remove them from a street car.
 
Old Dec 14, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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the owner wanted MORE braking power. his is a street car.
 
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I have only driven PCCB once. I wasn't impressed by the stopping power. I would opt for steel units for both track and street. Quite frankly, PCCB is for looks IMO.
 
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I heard that PCCB are not so great in colder climates.

I think the reduction in weight might result in better ride quality and handling.

Moreover, it appears Porsche is resting on its laurels rather than continuing to develop and improve their high end PCCB.
 
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I thought of PCCB on my next Cayenne for longevity and economical reasons--assuming the PCCB last 3-4x's longer.
 
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economical reasons--assuming the PCCB last 3-4x's longer.[/QUOTE]

Porsche Marketing... they will spin a web to sell you their product.
Take a good look at the Gen1 "advertised' vs real life out comes - especially on the track.
 
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some ppl really should just learn how to drive the god damn car and stop modding.
 
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GT3RS 4.0 only as a street car? *shakes head* I mean, what's the point?

A street car needing more brakes than the PCCB? *shakes head*
Thinking that bigger brakes=more stopping power *rolls eyes
 
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any pics of the car?
 
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This is the first I have ever heard of PCCB's not being enough stopping power, especially on the street. People remove them sometimes for other reasons, like they don't want to take a chance on cracking the rotors during fast tire-changes on the track, or save wear and tear for future resale.
 
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Great brakes are more than just "great stopping power". Every supercar that EVO, for example tests compares that car's brakes to porsche brakes. None of them - Lambo, Ferrari, etc. get the same high marks that porsche gets. The feel, progression, etc. is lacking on all of them.

I've spent enough time driving an LP-560 and an F430. I thought the lambo brakes were awful. Zero feel. The only brakes i've driven that were worse were on the Mercedes SLR. Without question the worst feeling brakes i've ever experienced.
 
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Originally Posted by spf4000
GT3RS 4.0 only as a street car? *shakes head* I mean, what's the point?

A street car needing more brakes than the PCCB? *shakes head*
Thinking that bigger brakes=more stopping power *rolls eyes
Was thinking the same exact thing... The stock Z06 brakes I had were great overall but once I swapped the carbon ceramics on it, I was mad that I hadn't done so sooner. For someone to say that on a street car that CCBs aren't enough, they're crazy. I could understand them being a bit too much at times and having the occasional squeak when they're cold, but not being not enough.
 
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I am sorry but this thread makes no sense.
The PCCB on the 4.0L GT3RS (for that matter any GT3) are inadequate?
Oh please.
My feelings are, you paid for the PCCB option so run the snot out of them.
When something happens to them then go steel ... done

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
I am sorry but this thread makes no sense.
The PCCB on the 4.0L GT3RS (for that matter any GT3) are inadequate?
Oh please.
My feelings are, you paid for the PCCB option so run the snot out of them.
When something happens to them then go steel ... done

\m/
I'm with you. My plan was to actually see how much I could get out of my PCCB's and if I toasted them, change them out. sold the car with 68,000 miles on it and some track duty and they were great.
 


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