GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

i want to replace my 2015 GT3 , need your advice

Old Mar 30, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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C'mon guys, knock it off. Let's get back to bench racing the 991 GT3 and that $65,000 Dodge Viper TA!
My apologies. I'll stop trolling and feeding the trolls
 
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I thought of saying the GT2 as well but one thing that stumps me with that car is how rare it is yet it's still going down in value. I'm fairly new to Porsche but I don't understand
...and there it is! lol. can't imagine what might have brought you closer to THAT conclusion wait: i "thought" of "something" ! baited breath requires i stay tuned for your next thoughtful highly informative musings on the topic

at least you admit not being able to understand
 
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^^^R6 rubber..yup, that will give you 3 sec and keep you out of the record book
I guess you have to do something to make up for that gargantuan rubber on the TA..
 
Old Mar 30, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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wired that Euro review didn't like it so much
like Top Gear and Autocar (the car tend to understeer a lot)

and Motor Trend think it's better then Ferrari or anything else
include a Pro racing driver like Randy:

some here had a chance to drive the Huracan ?
 
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Originally Posted by pelo911
wired that Euro review didn't like it so much
like Top Gear and Autocar (the car tend to understeer a lot)

and Motor Trend think it's better then Ferrari or anything else
include a Pro racing driver like Randy:
2014 Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4: The One We’ve Been Waiting Half a Century For? - Ignition Ep. 128 - YouTube

some here had a chance to drive the Huracan ?
I was pretty surprised with Motor Trend's review of the car. It's the first one I have seen on the car that's so glowing. It made me ALMOST consider getting one in the future but for the money (237k starting price) I'd rather have a 458 or 488 depending on pricing. You can get a 2013/14 458 with 7 years free maintenance for that price. To date their depreciation curve has been minimal to none. The 488 will affect things a little bit but I doubt they will drop as heavily as a Lambo typically does.
 
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Originally Posted by RossL
I was pretty surprised with Motor Trend's review of the car. It's the first one I have seen on the car that's so glowing. It made me ALMOST consider getting one in the future but for the money (237k starting price) I'd rather have a 458 or 488 depending on pricing. You can get a 2013/14 458 with 7 years free maintenance for that price. To date their depreciation curve has been minimal to none. The 488 will affect things a little bit but I doubt they will drop as heavily as a Lambo typically does.
i drove 458 and Huracan on track
but 458 was 2 years ago
so i can't remember exactly

as far i remember , i liked the 458 more
but the Huracan have amazing engine and grip
 
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Originally Posted by pelo911
i drove 458 and Huracan on track
but 458 was 2 years ago
so i can't remember exactly

as far i remember , i liked the 458 more
but the Huracan have amazing engine and grip
Not really a fair comparison but I drove the 458 and Gallardo back to back and the 458 was a blast because of RWD and being more tail happy. The Gallardo was planted and frankly boring to drive around the track. I was also limited since it was with the Exotics Racing group in Vegas. Are Huracan's easy to get or is there a waitlist?
 
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Originally Posted by RossL
Not really a fair comparison but I drove the 458 and Gallardo back to back and the 458 was a blast because of RWD and being more tail happy. The Gallardo was planted and frankly boring to drive around the track. I was also limited since it was with the Exotics Racing group in Vegas. Are Huracan's easy to get or is there a waitlist?
i drove the Gallardo Superleggera (first gen)
it's was fun because of the engine sound
but very very bad gearbox , and the handling of the 458 in different league.

Huracan wait list? i'm not sure
i guess no , but over my budget anyway
maybe a used one.

but here is potential replacement for my GT3:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...-look-details/

2895 lbs !!!
same engine as the 12C / 650S

i hope it will not be boring to drive like the 12C
 
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Originally Posted by RossL
I thought of saying the GT2 as well but one thing that stumps me with that car is how rare it is yet it's still going down in value. I'm fairly new to Porsche but I don't understand why the GT2 being super rare isn't going up in value but the GT2RS and 993 turbos are.
I recently bought an 09 and have been casually following the market, autotrader, ebay, porsche preapproved....i think they hit bottom already, maybe about 6-18 months ago (some examples inthe 110-120s) and are now stabilized if not climbing slowly. Its hard to find anything decent under 20K miles and not abused much under 135K. The biggest problem with the gt2 market is there are so few cars for sale, and even fewer 09s with the newer pcm, one cannot determine a fair average value. Additionally, fewer owners are vocal about them, some use them as daily drivers and it maybe a more mature(older) buyer. They definitely dont get the internet hype of the gt3 generations and do not offer the same aural gratification although the turbo whine can be sweet.

I have been toying with the idea of selling mine to get either a 430 scud or 458 but am having a hard time parting with a car that took me so long to find. I think though the scuderia is also a car that wont depreciate much more. (300K now exchanging hands 180s for good examples)
 
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RossL, would you trade straight up to get out of your gt3 for a scuderia again?
 
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RossL, would you trade straight up to get out of your gt3 for a scuderia again?
Funny that you ask as I have spent the last hour looking at the Scud market. If I find the right Scud, I'll probably go back. It's an amazing car that I feel will continue to hold its value and most likely appreciate over time like the CS.

The GT3 is an amazing car but I frankly hate dealing with PAG. I'm next on the list for an RS at my dealership and the color options are deplorable. I'd happily pay for PTS, but can't unless I'm lucky and get in during the build window which I have 0 control over... The PTS program is a joke and dealerships use the program to rape buyers. It amazes me how PAG isn't willing to do anything for a customer spending 200k on a car but Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, McLaren, etc. will happily give me any color I want on any panel for my money.
 
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Can't go wrong with any of these. But the 12c is still the best car i have ever driven. My wife also thinks so.

The 12c is the car at the right price right now. There is no other car, in that price range (for a used one), that compares. And anyone that says it's boring must not be driving often.

It can be loud when you want it to be and civilized when you want to go out to dinner. Its not all about, popping ear drums. Sometimes you just want to cruise and relax.
 
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I considered the 12c but we dont have any service nearby and it worries me, most owners ship the car for service.
 
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I considered the 12c but we dont have any service nearby and it worries me, most owners ship the car for service.
I'm in a similar situation. Closest dealership is almost 2 hours away. However, the dealership here told me that if I bought from them they would pickup and drop off my car for service free. This might only be for new cars but something to consider asking if you are interested.
 
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Funny that you ask as I have spent the last hour looking at the Scud market. If I find the right Scud, I'll probably go back. It's an amazing car that I feel will continue to hold its value and most likely appreciate over time like the CS.

The GT3 is an amazing car but I frankly hate dealing with PAG. I'm next on the list for an RS at my dealership and the color options are deplorable. I'd happily pay for PTS, but can't unless I'm lucky and get in during the build window which I have 0 control over... The PTS program is a joke and dealerships use the program to rape buyers. It amazes me how PAG isn't willing to do anything for a customer spending 200k on a car but Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, McLaren, etc. will happily give me any color I want on any panel for my money.
First of all it's quite enjoyable reading about you guys and your high end sports car escapades! Living vicariously...

I have just the opposite problem. After 10 years and lots of buy/selling and saving I'm dead set on a GT3 for many reasons. But which gen and model is effing killing me!

Ok, I want an opinion from both of you. And I want it based on these three cars and criteria.

997.2 GT3
997 GT3RS
991 GT3

I know the pros and cons of all three spec wise. Here is the criteria:

1. Not a daily driver
2. Two track days a year max
3. Fast weekend, day trip car
4. Cars n Coffee, event impact
5. I tend to like direct Motorsports colors
6. Best resale value as I have to part with the car to get another
7. Never owned or driven a PDK car
8. Had a Cayman S Sport as last car

Have at it. No wrong answers and give it to me straight

Mj
 

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