Sad to see another Carrera GT bite the dust. Glad to hear the driver is ok.

 

Exactly. I'm assuming CGTs are crashing for the same reasons we see with other high-performance cars. If there's a different reason, then it would be good to know for current and future owners.

It just seems that 3 or 4 crashes out of the 10 or so owners on this forum is rather high.

 

I think it is actually a very simple answer, one that was covered by a car magazine recently: most people under-estimate how much stability management in most modern cars is saving them. The GT is a super-powerful car, and without any stability control at all, too much throttle can easily turn into too much car.

 

Absolutely! I remember going through all this when I got one of the first "widow maker" GT2's.

If you think about it, every car has its limit. The higher the speed and lateral g's associated with that limit, the worse it is going to be for non-expert drivers to attempt a recovery. I mean, we're talking about speeds and cornering forces that were reserved for f1 only a few years ago.

I remember nearly losing the GT2 on a descending off camber left-hander at an not super insane rate of speed when I hit a sudden patch of broken pavement that completely unweighted the nose. Had I been at a higher rate of speed, who knows...

 

wow, how did you get to post copart auction picture?

 

That's assinine. You can't blame the car, it's the drivers responsibility to control the car, the car is legal. Everyone that buys a high performance car needs to baby it for awhile until they learn the car, just like on a motorcycle. If some yahoo buys a Busa and has never ridden anything like it before and hammers it, well, you know what's gonna happen, same goes for any car.

Christian

 

I think that's exactly correct and confirms what Nick has been saying for the last almost one year.

Here's a similar example. I traded my 996tt cab for a 360 Spider last spring. The F is less powerfull than the P by a long shot, but the p has much more nanny. I was always very comfortable hammering the thing in all sorts of circumstances and having the nanny save my stupid ***. When i took the F for a test drive, I hammered the throttle on an on-ramp and the rear started to come out. I thought, holy crap, I could really get in trouble with this admittedly less powerful car!

Multiply that accel force by a factor for the cgt and you can imagine how much respect the cgt demands.

 

I would love to learn more about how the accident happened. Until then, I think we should reserve judgement.

Looks like the car held up well if it was in a high speed incident.

 

Enough said. Too close to here...

 

Good drivers don't get into trouble? Please....

 

It has nothing to do with being a good driver, it has to do with knowing your car which usually takes some time. Most of these wrecks have happened very soon after purchase.

I am sure you could handle it right off the bat though

Christian

 

Do you always have to battle someone Christian?

 

^how exactly am I battling someone? I made a statement for crying out loud, he was sarcastic to me, however, I am not allowed to be, gotcha. I am not part of the boys club yet I guess.

Christian

 

Its sad to see such an amazing car wreck, but at the end of the day its just a car and a life is worth much more then a car.

 

^agreed!

Christian