Like them both, but yea the 997 GT3 is SEXXXXXYYYY!!

 

Same opinion here! very SeXy !!

 

heavy, it's seems obvious that you aren't speaking from experience. Have you driven either car?

And, the weight diff b/t equally optioned cars is 100lbs, not 200lbs. Good try though.

 

Can't we all just get along?

Scott

 

#1 Yes

#2 The I've seen the 996 weighed at 3020, every test I've seen of the 997 says 32xx so what is your point? Would you like me to list my refernces.

 

That says it all. Edit: nevermind that comment, have you driven both?

A comprehensive thread on the subject. The key is comparing *like* cars, with the same or similar options and the same fuel load. There is not a person more **** on this subect than NJ-GT; he concluded 100lb delta comparing like stock cars.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ghlight=scales

 

By the way, I think the 997 GT3 makes the 996 GT3 look dated. Though, the initial shots of the 997 I thought it looked ricey. I think that often happens when you get accustomed to a design change.

 

When I saw that rear end shot, that is the 1st thing I thought about.

 

The problem is that when comparing the 996 and 997 gt3 the options differ so much, no sunroof for the 996, mandatory for the 997, not sure if nav was an option or not, PASM not even optional on the 997. The 996 (per your own thread) is easily capable of being 2800lbs with the full interior, AC, etc you wont get anywhere near that in a 997 without cutting and sawing the sunroof out, removing AC, stripping the car down etc. IMO I thought the idea of the GT# is to have a street legal race car that, if you want, you can cruise around town or go straight to the track. With a few things removed you can have a bonified track car, all you need to add is a rol cage. The 997 seems to have lost that edge, though it is still a great car.

Dont get me wrong I dont doubt that the 997 is faster but the weight gain and plush interior with added weight is what leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This car could have been MUCH faster than it is now by concentrating more on the weight of it, and the RS hasnt shown any improvement over the reg GT3.

 

I agree to a point. The point is that GT3s are not intended to be dedicated track cars, but the most track worthy street car produced by Porsche.

Once you understand the niche (really for weekend warriors out to have fun), it fits the bill pefectly. If a track car you want, then you will want a full cage, slicks, monoballs throughout, remote resevoir 1000lbs shocks, etc etc, and if that is the goal, then just get a retired cup car or build up a higher mileage depreciated 996 GT3. Either way, it will be a trailered car with limited, if any, street appeal.

My point is that the 997 GT3 hits the mark as it is intended, but I do think it (and especially the RS) should be 300lbs lighter from the factory as pointed out in the rennlist thread. Light = more fun.

 

The statement that Porsche has built a very track worthy street car is probably the whole point and great appeal of the 997 GT3. It's simply a great driver's car. I test drove 996 GT3's which were probably set up great for the track but were not so user friendly for most of our NJ roads. The 997 GT3 is the perfect balance of both street worthiness and track abilities. No need to trailer the car to the track.

 

I agree.

These cars come with plates. I can buy a car w/o plates that will suck a GT3 up its tailpipes for a lot less money, but that's not what I want. I'm looking for a car that is not only street legal, but street enjoyable yet still be brutally fast and reliable for track use.

I know that offends purists, but if I'm spending 120k on a car, it better be phenomenal *on the street*. That is, I have no interest in a one dimensional, six figure track car.

At the end of the day, behind the wheel on street and track, the extra ballast and hole in the roof has no impact on enjoyment of the car. Those items only really seem to matter here, on the internet.

 

Yes the 997 GT3

 

I've always admired the 996 version, but the 997 is sweet. Much more aggressive looking.

 

Nice pic...I'm there at that Coffee Bean most Sunday mornings on my motorcycle... Always nice cars in that lot! I'll bring my Porsche out there soon... Drive safe in the canyons!