No Nick, the real question is what are THEY missing!

 

You can't measure everything on performance. There are a lot of intangibles. You know the Vette guys are saying the same thing about us!

 

Urrrr... 3.5 seconds for a GT3 to go 0-60? I don't think so. 4.5 seems a tad high, but I'm not sure the GT3 breaks into the 3 second range.

CP

 

The test was very well done...except for the tires, fit cups on that TT and look out.

 

Excellent point! The Vette forums are full of guys who brag about beating TTs and GT3s every day of the week. Does that make a Z06 a better car? Not in my book.

 

Did I say a full seconed? I do not think so. Since we are basing this all on magazines. Almost every magazine that tested the 997 GT3 got a 3.8 0-60 time for the GT3.

 

If the GT3's were on cups, that explains the slow 0-60 times. It's my understanding that Cups require some running to warm up. Then they become nice and sticky. Obviously you're not going to get that in quick 0-60 sprints. Put those same cars on PS2's and the times will go down, but the track times will go up. Put the TT on the same Cups and it's 0-60 times will go up and track times will go down. This does seem to be the best comparison so far, but no test/comparison is ever perfect and the fact that these cars were all on different tires proves it. But as mentioned, the added drag of the wing and the wider hips really shows in the triple digit speeds. Put the RS suspension onto the GT3 or TT and it would be very interesting to see what happens to track times in those vehicles.

 

Did you get to read the article? I haven't and cannot say these numbers mean anything coming from the UK!

 

I guess we'll just have to wait till they test the GT2 then

 

Great compilation of stats. I wonder how a real race woud turn out.

 

It was a race! The same driver(s) drove the 4 different cars (GT3, RS, C2S w/ x51, Turbo) on the same track on the same day. All four cars are pictured together on the track. Great article. It's featured on the last GT Porsche magazine.

 

I would take a GT3-RS over a 997TT any day.

Turbos are fast around the track because those VTG Turbos spool up fast and give you great response coming out of corners and pulling down the straights, but no way that its entry speed into corners matches the GT3/RS as it is much heavier and has an inferior suspension setup. The fact that the Turbo is fast enough to compensate for its weight and lack of handling does not necessarily make it a great track car. With the GT3, you can feel everything that is going on with the car, and for many drivers, they can easily yield better times in a GT3 because the handling characteristics can inspire more confidence.

The GT3-RS is worth the money for those who truly appreciate the car. Obviously many here do not. The car has a homologation-spec suspension which is used on the 997 RSR, which allows for minimal camber change even at lower ride height through the use of different carriers and multi-link "wishbone" setup. The wheel carriers are made of hollow cast magnesium and save several pounds per corner in unsprung weight, while providing optimal geometry through enhanced suspension pickup points.

Thr Turbo is a great everyday GT. The GT3 and GT3-RS are a better driver's car.

And I disagree with the statement that 0.6 seconds is insignificant around a short course where the lap time is around 1 minute and change. After two laps, it's 1.2 seconds. After 10 laps, it's 6 seconds... and that's a lot in racing! Do you have any idea what race teams would spend to shave 0.6 seconds off of their cars?

But who cares about all this nonsense when you can have the best of both worlds and buy a GT2 (or a Carrera GT)?

 

This test was done in UK, right!?
Knowing how seldom it doesn't rain there, I bet it was raining that time and/or the track was damp. If so, it would yeild huge advantage for the PS2's vs. the cups AND the AWD of the tt...

Nice test, regardles! Thanks for posting!!

 

You GT3 guys will come up with anything to be faster than a TT at this point won't you?

 

Why of course!