I second that!

 

From what I've read and seen on Lexus's website, I don't see what all the fuss is about. There was no price mentioned, but you could build your own. I think anything over 150K$$$ would be a compete waste. The economy is taking too much money from anyone who could really afford toys like that!!!!!

 

The fuss is that it's a Japanese supercar, not your cookie-cutter exotic. The car is expensive, but no point to talk about the price when more than likely all of it is already accounted for.

 

So, the whole point of the 19 pages was to figure out if the LFA was worth the price? Back story is more interesting though... Toyota decides to build a $150K class "supercar"; pretty much nails the $150K performance numbers (minus the GTR argument) and builds what seems a decent $150K car (performance comparison only) - it just costs twice that. Guessing you need to bring "hyper" numbers if you want to ask for "hyper" money. Probably a great $150K to $200K car - which is what they started to build, no?

 

How is this a $150k car? Justify it without including turbocharged, domestic, and kit cars into the equation.

 

For $150k, what car has/is:
1.) CFRP monocoque
2.) CFRP body
3.) F1 derived V10
4.) Lexus luxury
5.) Lexus reliability
6.) Front mid-engine layout
7.) Completely bespoke
8.) Hand assembled
9.) Built around driving experience vs. just numbers

 

Same as it's $400k car - that's what i'd be willing to pay for it (heck, might even go as high as $200K). Point really wasn't to pick on the $150K; other than that was the original "target" for the car.

Will admit to being stuck on the fact that it is twice the price of a Gallardo, and does not really do anything better. If it was bringing Merc numbers to the party at that price point, would be less of an issue.

Impressive package, very good "numbers"; but for $400K, you really should get the "holy $hit" for at least something about it. Don't get it from anything about this car. Different strokes...

 

The wow factor for me is that a Japanese manufacturer was capable of this. 1st Japanese production V-10, which in fact is a marvel in itself considering that the country is known for it's superb 4/6 cylinder engines. Lexus didn't cut corners, otherwise its reputation is on the line. So another wow is the luxury and reliability packaged into this. Lastly, if you were to get one, there are only 499 people on Earth that would have the pleasure of owning one.

 

Aren't those the same points Honda tried to win with the NS-X (at a little better price point)? Just my opinion, but they might have done "better" to cut back on the CF and bring it down market some. Not waving the GTR flag by any means, but seems Nissan was closer to the target than Toyota.

An over the top halo car with no connection to the rest of your product line just because you can is just... but, if you are going to go all out, you need to bring it and build a Veyron - not another CGT with less motor.

GTR could probably use a little "more" and the LFA could use a little (maybe a lot) "less". The ideal "Pacific Rim supercar" is probably somewhere in the middle.

 

Agreed.

 

The CF technologies used for the LFA don't end with the LFA; Toyota are using the LFA as a way to learn how to mass produce CF for future cars w/o the exorbitant price. If they can do that, then they will be leagues ahead of the competition which has just about met them on emissions and hybrid technologies. They are not looking to bring $150k CF supercars to the only mildly insanely rich (not that that won't happen); they are looking at the benefits to more mundane vehicles which are accessible to a far greater market: econohatches, city cars, family sedans. McLaren have now learned how to produce a CF monocoque in a very cost-effective manner, but only just now after decades of producing supercars and Formula One machines.

 

Owners are going to be more or less hand picked by Toyota since this car is mostly a marketing campaign to try and shift the image of Lexus. Don't know what the fuss is about the price since chances are nobody here will even get the chance to buy it.

 

Where the ZR1 option?

 

Not a bad car tho

 

your right...