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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Supercharger for AMG 63s

Over the last several weeks I have had a number of 63 owners expressing interest in forced induction for their cars.
After evaluating a number of possibilities in terms of what to use - turbo or supercharger - I have settled on a twin-screw from Kenne Bell.



Let me try to answer some fore coming questions to best of my knowledge at this time.

1. What kind of power increase can be expected?
Since M156 runs 11.3:1 CR, 3-4 psi will be boost limit for Stage I, as R&D progresses and transmission strength can be verified, more boost would be possible. I am expecting 70HP/70TQ at the wheels at this boost level, more with other mods.

2. Price?
At this time it is hard to predict. I will do everything I can to make it affordable.

3. Will it work with other mods?
Not with software, but with headers, exhaust, intake and so forth should not be a problem.

4. What do I do next?
If you are interested and serious about this kit, I need to hear from you, so I can judge the demand more precisely. Just e-mail me your name, model and contact information.

Thank you for listening.
 
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Subscribed.... I have customers asking about this as well. I'm interested to see the durability of the transmissions, and boost numbers on the stock engine.
 
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Cool. i know kleeman has been working on one for a while. good luck on the tuning. Getting rid of the 2 intake flaps is really going make things interesting, much less the intake and exhaust cam degree advance/retard.
 
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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The 2.8H is a badass blower and will make the 63's sick!

Some lower compression pistons (8.5:1) and 15psi will be INSANE. Easy 700rwhp on pump gas.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Thank you for support!

Cool. i know kleeman has been working on one for a while. good luck on the tuning. Getting rid of the 2 intake flaps is really going make things interesting, much less the intake and exhaust cam degree advance/retard.
Kleeman has decided against making the blower kit, this why I decided to go for it.

The intake flaps are actually throttle bodies. 63s have twin 70 mm TBs that are mounted upside down, under the manifold. It will not be easy, but I have several ideas on how to make it work.
 
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Originally Posted by Vadim@GMGRacing
Thank you for support!



Kleeman has decided against making the blower kit, this why I decided to go for it.

The intake flaps are actually throttle bodies. 63s have twin 70 mm TBs that are mounted upside down, under the manifold. It will not be easy, but I have several ideas on how to make it work.
Why did they decide against it?
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Do not know. Decision was made in Denmark.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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i can just imagine how ridiculous 63 amgs will be with a little F/I
 
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since it's already n/a, why not do turbos?
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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No room for turbos.
 
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because they tried it and it went boom I heard!!!
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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because they tried it and it went boom I heard!!!
AMG or tuner??
 
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subscribed!
 
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Vadim@GMGRacing
No room for turbos.

APS seems to have good success with non engine mounted turbos with the vettes.

http://www.airpowersystems.com/products_usa.html
 
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Originally Posted by DMK
because they tried it and it went boom I heard!!!
I heard the same from a very good source. No idea what setup they used...
 


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