Clear bra paint protection recommendation
#16
Rob did 3 cars for me....each turned out perfect. If my latest one did not have clear bra already on it from the dealer, I would have had him do it also.
Moral of the story...do your research yes, see the work someone does upclose...Scott you have seen my GT2 up close, don't know if you saw my Turbo X50 prior, or the clear bra on my SL55 AMG. Each of those were done by Rob.
I would use Raja as well...have talked to him about doing a car for me. Still plan o0n doing so just have not found the time to get it done. This is one that there is no kit available for on the market from what I understand from discussions with Rob.
Moral of the story...do your research yes, see the work someone does upclose...Scott you have seen my GT2 up close, don't know if you saw my Turbo X50 prior, or the clear bra on my SL55 AMG. Each of those were done by Rob.
I would use Raja as well...have talked to him about doing a car for me. Still plan o0n doing so just have not found the time to get it done. This is one that there is no kit available for on the market from what I understand from discussions with Rob.
#17
Cliff has some serious talent when it comes to doing a clear bra and polishing as well. Even when you know its there you still can't see it. Highly recommended.
#18
+100,001.... when I first met Cliff he had a Cayenne he was working on and I walked over to the car and asked him if he did the front because I couldn't see or feel any lines/edges, it was already done. That's a true clear bra!
#19
I went with Cutting Edge from the other thread referal as they were able to do the tint, lights tinted and clear bra. Unfortunately, my expectations superceded their capabilities on the clear bra. I was sold on a computerized lazer cut technology custom tailored to my car. I thought that was top of the line since it was mentioned a few times. Little did I know that their process is in no way atrue 100% frontal coverage, but simply a very basic overlay that exposes more than 60% of the most vulnerable areas prone to chipping. The laser fitament is crap and the seams......well, there just is no uniform alignment. Period. The inners of both upper and lower grilles, fog light bezels, hood lip, etc. are all still completely exposed. To do these they would have to add pieces, thus charging additional.
Moral of this story. Research whether you want to pay for a custom 100% wrap or just an overlay. Based on the price points, I probably should have known. My learning curve is now your advantage.
I will be contacting Shy or Raj in the next day or two to see if any of my install is salvageable, but I expect not.
Moral of this story. Research whether you want to pay for a custom 100% wrap or just an overlay. Based on the price points, I probably should have known. My learning curve is now your advantage.
I will be contacting Shy or Raj in the next day or two to see if any of my install is salvageable, but I expect not.
I installed a kit for a guy the other day in Fort Worth who had one of the very first clear bras installed. It was applied 17 years ago on a white Volvo. I was amazed that there was no yellowing at all (since it was 3M film and that old) but what was interesting was even though it was all hand cut, the edges were about half an inch from the edges of the panels leaving a lot of exposed areas. In those gaps there were some chips that had gone through the paint and were now rusting. It was amazing to see one of the first jobs out there... and to see how far the materials and designs have come in 17 years.
#20
Rob (Pro-form) has all the designs for the pre-cut kits...they are exceptional. Coverage and contour are two elements that really make the kits spot on to the curves of the vehicle. Cutting on the car can lead to damage of the painted surface, this is just common sense...there is more risk involved...slight pressure, obscure angle, slip of the hand and you have to get a respray. Rob's kits and installation are impecable, and he is a true proffesional at what he does and has been doing it longer than anyone else. I would not have taken 3 cars to him over the past 12 months had that not been the case. In the situation of there not being a kit available and free hand cutting on the car is needed, I have heard Raja does an excellent job, I plan to use him also in the case of one of my cars for which Rob does not have a kit.
#21
I resemble that remark...
+1 for Cliff at Auto Armour....people are continually amazed to learn that the full front clip of my then 2011 GT3 and now 2012 TT have had Cliff's treatment - meaning the highest compliment paid to a clear bra installer in that it is virtually invisible.....Ivan is right on with this recommendation and I'm happy to second it!
#22
+1 for Cliff at Auto Armour....people are continually amazed to learn that the full front clip of my then 2011 GT3 and now 2012 TT have had Cliff's treatment - meaning the highest compliment paid to a clear bra installer in that it is virtually invisible.....Ivan is right on with this recommendation and I'm happy to second it!
#23
Rob (Pro-form) has all the designs for the pre-cut kits...they are exceptional. Coverage and contour are two elements that really make the kits spot on to the curves of the vehicle. Cutting on the car can lead to damage of the painted surface, this is just common sense...there is more risk involved...slight pressure, obscure angle, slip of the hand and you have to get a respray. Rob's kits and installation are impecable, and he is a true proffesional at what he does and has been doing it longer than anyone else. I would not have taken 3 cars to him over the past 12 months had that not been the case. In the situation of there not being a kit available and free hand cutting on the car is needed, I have heard Raja does an excellent job, I plan to use him also in the case of one of my cars for which Rob does not have a kit.
#24
Rob (Pro-form) has all the designs for the pre-cut kits...they are exceptional. Coverage and contour are two elements that really make the kits spot on to the curves of the vehicle. Cutting on the car can lead to damage of the painted surface, this is just common sense...there is more risk involved...slight pressure, obscure angle, slip of the hand and you have to get a respray. Rob's kits and installation are impecable, and he is a true proffesional at what he does and has been doing it longer than anyone else. I would not have taken 3 cars to him over the past 12 months had that not been the case. In the situation of there not being a kit available and free hand cutting on the car is needed, I have heard Raja does an excellent job, I plan to use him also in the case of one of my cars for which Rob does not have a kit.
#25
I am very happy with the work Rob has done for me which is why I posted what I have here. There is no other reason. He has been doing this longer than anyone that is a fact. You have seen my car the application is perfect. That is what it comes down to at the end of the day, I am not saying this because of favoritism, I am thoroughly happy with rob's work...and each car he does withe same level of proffesionalism, quality, and careful atttention to detail no matter what you bring him, be it a vayron (which he has done) to a Kia (which he has also done).
#26
I never asked for any reason.... Hmmmm..... Yes I have seen your car and application, hence why I didn't comment to start an argument.... I'm done here.... Quick response though.
Sorry had to edit.... Have you seen all his work? Just want to clarify your comment about favoritism and each car he does work on.
Sorry had to edit.... Have you seen all his work? Just want to clarify your comment about favoritism and each car he does work on.
Last edited by GTLaser; 01-19-2012 at 11:08 PM.
#27
Yeah up late tonight... Saw u post and wanted to reply... No worries ... No reason needed the evidence is in the work and quality of the product over time. You have your beliefs and I have mine, we can agree to disagree on this one.
Edit: I have seen enough of his work to make the judgement and comments I have. He has done 3 cars for me in 2011. It is implausible to think that we have seen every example of work from the guys that do clearbra, that is not within reason, what I will say is that I have seen a lot of cars rob has done and I have yet to see one where the quality, workmanship, and detail are not impeccable and fall anywhere short of excellent...I will say this much.
Edit: I have seen enough of his work to make the judgement and comments I have. He has done 3 cars for me in 2011. It is implausible to think that we have seen every example of work from the guys that do clearbra, that is not within reason, what I will say is that I have seen a lot of cars rob has done and I have yet to see one where the quality, workmanship, and detail are not impeccable and fall anywhere short of excellent...I will say this much.
Last edited by sunir; 01-19-2012 at 11:27 PM.
#28
That's me, and I'm SO happy to be back to a Turbo...the GT3 certainly has a place in the 997 line up, but in the end, just not my choice. And as my license plate indicates, certainly NOT a PDK. That transmission would be must fine for my Ford Fusion thank you very much. I drove the PDK in three different 997.2 cars and have no idea why anyone would choose it. An 'automatic' in my Fusion - or even in my previous AMG car works just fine, but I truly hated it in the Porsches I drove. Aside from being jerky jerky (as one other poster mentioned in another thread), I would find the car - yes, even a Turbo - to be boring after about 15 minutes of drive time. If the argument for it is the often quoted 0-60 time/launching/1/4 mile time arguments, that is an argument I don't understand in a 911. If that was what I wanted in a car, I'd buy a 1000 horsepower resto-modded 1969 Camaro. Aren't you glad you asked ?
#29
I have yet to see a non- wrapped hand cut kit that is of higher quality than a pre- cut kit. A complete custom kit with wrapped edges is a different story however.
On a side note, has anyone used Skip from PFT Films?
On a side note, has anyone used Skip from PFT Films?
#30
Rob (Pro-form) has all the designs for the pre-cut kits...they are exceptional. Coverage and contour are two elements that really make the kits spot on to the curves of the vehicle. Cutting on the car can lead to damage of the painted surface, this is just common sense...there is more risk involved...slight pressure, obscure angle, slip of the hand and you have to get a respray. Rob's kits and installation are impecable, and he is a true proffesional at what he does and has been doing it longer than anyone else. I would not have taken 3 cars to him over the past 12 months had that not been the case. In the situation of there not being a kit available and free hand cutting on the car is needed, I have heard Raja does an excellent job, I plan to use him also in the case of one of my cars for which Rob does not have a kit.