base gt-r 7:27 @ 'ring (on spec-v wheels)
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I used that opportunity to modify it.
I upgraded the rotors. The slotted rotors won't crack after repeated heavy use, so I won't have to worry about them for a while. And the pads are only $300 (also an upgrade over stock).
I 'upgraded' to the base model Dunlops over the Bridgestones. There are going to be cheaper tires in future for this car, as well as more application specific (track, and daily use). This cost could do down if I would purchase a separate set of track wheels (like what everybody else does who tracks often).
And the fluids only cost $1300 for trans, fr diff, rear diff every 18000 miles (unless you track).
If you track any car, you are going to change out brakes, tires, and fluids. How much does this cost in any other comparable car?
(I'm suggesting the overall difference might equal $1k at best - and therefore negligable when considering the overall cost invloved)
I upgraded the rotors. The slotted rotors won't crack after repeated heavy use, so I won't have to worry about them for a while. And the pads are only $300 (also an upgrade over stock).
I 'upgraded' to the base model Dunlops over the Bridgestones. There are going to be cheaper tires in future for this car, as well as more application specific (track, and daily use). This cost could do down if I would purchase a separate set of track wheels (like what everybody else does who tracks often).
And the fluids only cost $1300 for trans, fr diff, rear diff every 18000 miles (unless you track).
If you track any car, you are going to change out brakes, tires, and fluids. How much does this cost in any other comparable car?
(I'm suggesting the overall difference might equal $1k at best - and therefore negligable when considering the overall cost invloved)
That's kind of my problem with the car, yes you get amazing performance for the money but at what cost. In my opinion Nissan has really brain washed GTR owners to think that the service costs for that level of performance are acceptable.
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It's alot less than that for other cars, just in the cost of consumables. And I agree with you I never replace anything on my car without upgrading it. Do you drive the car agressively when you are not tracking it? Because it costs less to maintain my Range Rover which are known to remove your wallet when you are sleeping than the GTR. And that's a big heavy SUV...at the bottom of the reliablity charts.
That's kind of my problem with the car, yes you get amazing performance for the money but at what cost. In my opinion Nissan has really brain washed GTR owners to think that the service costs for that level of performance are acceptable.
That's kind of my problem with the car, yes you get amazing performance for the money but at what cost. In my opinion Nissan has really brain washed GTR owners to think that the service costs for that level of performance are acceptable.
I really don't think that $300 pads, $1800 for tires is a lot (there are a few tire options for $800 - $1200, but I'd prefer the runflats, and more options are coming out), and $1300 for fluids (accept brake and oil). I simply asked what is the real cost difference?
What does it cost to replace 911 brakes, tires and fluids (transmission fluid flush and differential fluids)? Seriously. I don't know. Perhaps someone could help me here.
I'm going to guess that the difference is less than $1k/year. That is about what I pay in vehicle tax ($930). The vehicle tax rate for a 2009 911t for my area is $1700. So if the difference is less than or about the same as $770, then these cars have identical cost for me to maintain.
Am I missing something?
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The ONLY weak link in the C6 Z06 is the brakes.This is easily solved by going to two piece Coleman rotors using a fabricated alumium hat.
If you keep the Z06 engine Stock, the reliability is outstanding.
Normal mods, such as corner balancing and a track alignment, along with an additional set of wheels for Dot R tires and racing brake pads provides a dependable "Track Car" that is really hard to beat.
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My first ever feedback was negative - "your GT-R is sloooowwww".
*edit: I'm unable to question that opinion and ask - according to who's measuring stick? The GT-R is many things. I don't think 'slow' would be one of them.
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Porsche previewed all of the fancy electronic hocus pocus that is on the GTR and other current super cars 21 years ago on the 959. This is nothing new and we all know that. Those who purchased Porsches did not like the electronic intervention, preferring to hone their own control skills, so Porsche has kept their cars fairly free on any sort of electronic aids. A couple of weeks ago I was reading an editorial in a current Porsche specific magazine, and they were complaining about the new Porsche GT3 because it provides too much intervention. Seems those who buy Porsches prefer to do their own driving. It is as simple as that. Perhaps PDK will begin to change all that. We shall see.
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The reason why Porsche did not bring out the PDK earlier is because back then there was NO competition from other manufacturers with dual clutch transmission cars. Why bring out something new and advance, when you can 'milk' the buyers?
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is
. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is
. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.Like what everyone has been saying, the GTR is a play station on wheels
. If you press the buttons in a certain order performance suddenly goes up, this is called the Launch Control or what Nissan wants us to believe as a get out of snow control, we all know this as a there goes your warranty cheat code.
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The reason why Porsche did not bring out the PDK earlier is because back then there was NO competition from other manufacturers with dual clutch transmission cars. Why bring out something new and advance, when you can 'milk' the buyers?
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is
. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.
No Porsche actually didn't release the PDK in the 997's because it was originally slated to come out in the TT but the torque kept blowing the tranny. So rather than release a faulty product (AHEM AHEM ) from the gearbox, they waited until the PDK could handle the torque. No non, converted GT-R has won a race anywhere that I've heard of. One lap and Targa Tasmania hardly qualify as races, but I wouldn't expect you to know that either. 3 lap sessions and rally races where the GT-R won by default due to faster cars crashing isn't much to brag about.
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^ Wait till Porsche releases the turbo with PDK. I guarantee you'll find lots of gold particles in it's transmission fluid. LOL
Seriously, why do you even bother questioning the maintenance costs of a GTR? It's a high performance, state of the art vehicle. More advance than the current 911 turbo when it comes to the transmission. You cannot expect the transmission fluid of the GTR to be as cheap as the transmission fluid of the turbo - thats just absurd. I know the GTR is special, but it aint that special!
You're like those idiots who buy high performance cars and expect to use cheap 'crap' gas to run it.
Seriously, why do you even bother questioning the maintenance costs of a GTR? It's a high performance, state of the art vehicle. More advance than the current 911 turbo when it comes to the transmission. You cannot expect the transmission fluid of the GTR to be as cheap as the transmission fluid of the turbo - thats just absurd. I know the GTR is special, but it aint that special!
You're like those idiots who buy high performance cars and expect to use cheap 'crap' gas to run it.
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Another Nissan fan im guessing, its sad when they stoop so low as to start derogatory name calling.
Theres no question that a Nissan has ran 7:27 we have a video of this happening. The main issue we all have here is whether or not that car was stock. Clearly many Porsche and fans of other manufacturers (even Nissan's) believe that Nissan used a ringer for their fast lap.
Theres no question that a Nissan has ran 7:27 we have a video of this happening. The main issue we all have here is whether or not that car was stock. Clearly many Porsche and fans of other manufacturers (even Nissan's) believe that Nissan used a ringer for their fast lap.
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The reason why Porsche did not bring out the PDK earlier is because back then there was NO competition from other manufacturers with dual clutch transmission cars. Why bring out something new and advance, when you can 'milk' the buyers?
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.
You're statement about those who drive Porsches "prefer to do their own driving" is
. So the GTR drives itself eh? That's okay, so long as it's winning races all over the world. Result is all that matters.