Two different roads tests - PTT wins one and dead last in another
Two different roads tests - PTT wins one and dead last in another
Pretty weird -
The PTT R&T talks about is so far from anyone's experience with the car - strange.
Motor Trend picks PTT as clear winner
http://wot.motortrend.com/1401_audi_...ead2_head.html
Road and Track - has it dead last this month
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...n-65-7-roa0314
The PTT R&T talks about is so far from anyone's experience with the car - strange.
Motor Trend picks PTT as clear winner
http://wot.motortrend.com/1401_audi_...ead2_head.html
Road and Track - has it dead last this month
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...n-65-7-roa0314
Last edited by dhh; Mar 19, 2014 at 08:30 PM.
Have you ever asked yourself what qualifications (other than they got the job) the writers for these rags have. Are they former race car drivers? Have they designed cars? Have they designed car parts? Can they take a car apart and redesign it? Can they even read a design spec sheet? Have any of them ever built a car? I think you get my point. I have found other than yes they got the job they have little else that (most are not even very good writers) would make me think they are anywhere near car experts. Just another opinion just like yours or mine!
I found the R&T article very interesting. They found the PTT to be the best car, with the most useful space, best back seat leg and head room, they just did not like the fact that it cost more, was slower in a straight line, and for some reason they stated the PDK had fallen behind the competiion's tranmissions?
In the end they put down they were not looking for the best sports sedan, but for the "best priced fast luxury car". They penalized the Panny for being the best "track car" that was also the most useful street car.
Per R&T
"What the Porsche does well, it does very well indeed. In company anywhere outside this group, the Panamera Turbo is stupidly, unconscionably fast. Even in this surreal gathering, its engine's yell stands out as the best mix of anger and music. And the hunchback hatchback offers both the highest Home Depot factor and the best backseat experience, with comfortable rear buckets and enough headroom for a Dr. Seuss hat.
Filling the hills with tire smoke and the sound of a pissed-off V8.
The list goes on. On twisty roads, the Panamera feels like it weighs a ton or two less than every other car here. It turns in instantly and hangs on until our test equipment tickles the 1.0-g mark. Around a track, it's easily the quickest here, and its brake pedal feels the best as well.
But these aren't track cars, they're luxury cars
The Porsche's interior is the most expensive-feeling by far, but whilethere are a ton of buttons on the dash—which we love—some are located in the damnedest of places. And where there are no buttons, you're forced to use the small, often indecipherable touch screen. The tires ring and clomp over every pavement imperfection, the cabin is far louder than the other cars', and the front seats are rock-hard.
But the biggest problem is that the Panamera Turbo is so expensive that a good negotiator could buy both this story's first- and second-place finishers for the same money. Had we been able to get a 570-hp Turbo S for this test, the price would have been even higher—and yet the S still wouldn't have been the fastest-accelerating car here. In this company, and for that money, the Panamera just isn't good enough.
So because the PTT was the most expensive it had to be "better" than all the other cars by a "wide" margin, not just "better". So they crowned the best value luxury sedan that goes like stink and it was the M5 -
Like all things in life you get what you pay for. M5 is a fine car, but no amount of money on improvments will make it a PTT and there in lies the "value" of the Panny and why it is the worlds best sports sedan at "any price".
Motor Trend on the other hand was just testing the value RS7 vs the expensive PTTS - they found the PTTS to be the better canyon carver and track car and as useful for daily life. You just had to pay more for it. To Randy Pobst - it was well worth it, he was in awe of the big P car.
In the end they put down they were not looking for the best sports sedan, but for the "best priced fast luxury car". They penalized the Panny for being the best "track car" that was also the most useful street car.
Per R&T
"What the Porsche does well, it does very well indeed. In company anywhere outside this group, the Panamera Turbo is stupidly, unconscionably fast. Even in this surreal gathering, its engine's yell stands out as the best mix of anger and music. And the hunchback hatchback offers both the highest Home Depot factor and the best backseat experience, with comfortable rear buckets and enough headroom for a Dr. Seuss hat.
Filling the hills with tire smoke and the sound of a pissed-off V8.
The list goes on. On twisty roads, the Panamera feels like it weighs a ton or two less than every other car here. It turns in instantly and hangs on until our test equipment tickles the 1.0-g mark. Around a track, it's easily the quickest here, and its brake pedal feels the best as well.
But these aren't track cars, they're luxury cars
The Porsche's interior is the most expensive-feeling by far, but whilethere are a ton of buttons on the dash—which we love—some are located in the damnedest of places. And where there are no buttons, you're forced to use the small, often indecipherable touch screen. The tires ring and clomp over every pavement imperfection, the cabin is far louder than the other cars', and the front seats are rock-hard.
But the biggest problem is that the Panamera Turbo is so expensive that a good negotiator could buy both this story's first- and second-place finishers for the same money. Had we been able to get a 570-hp Turbo S for this test, the price would have been even higher—and yet the S still wouldn't have been the fastest-accelerating car here. In this company, and for that money, the Panamera just isn't good enough.
So because the PTT was the most expensive it had to be "better" than all the other cars by a "wide" margin, not just "better". So they crowned the best value luxury sedan that goes like stink and it was the M5 -
Like all things in life you get what you pay for. M5 is a fine car, but no amount of money on improvments will make it a PTT and there in lies the "value" of the Panny and why it is the worlds best sports sedan at "any price".
Motor Trend on the other hand was just testing the value RS7 vs the expensive PTTS - they found the PTTS to be the better canyon carver and track car and as useful for daily life. You just had to pay more for it. To Randy Pobst - it was well worth it, he was in awe of the big P car.
Last edited by supercup; Mar 25, 2014 at 10:47 AM.
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