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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pbread
I ordered mine from acute performance. I'm sure Micheal can give you a quote:

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Thanks!

Any comments on the ride quality with your new setup?
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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I honestly feel like the ride is now better since switching over to the ADV1's as I feel like the car is more nimble and has more of a solid and responsive feeling ride.

For one, the wheels are a forged monoblock design (vs I believe a cast OEM wheel) and are over 5lbs lighter than the OEM sport 20" wheels. I feel like the shedding of 6lbs unsprung per wheel (also saved 1 lb per wheel going to titanium lug bolts) is slightly noticeable. I've also had others drive my car before and after feel the same way.

As far as lowering the car and the ride here - no difference really at all here as it's the same suspension (you don't have to mess with new springs etc) and I don't have it too low where it would scrape my driveway or anything pulling in. Also, with the lowering links, comfort mode is still the original height so you can always raise her up if you are concerned here.

I will say however, that with the 30/25 profile tire, hitting pot holes or surface anomalies inherently will return a more harsh and jarring feedback however the forged monoblock design will provide the strength needed here to withstand.

I live in the Atlanta area and our roads are in fairly good condition so I haven't had any issues really here (never hit a what you're describing as a "manhattan pothole"). The wheels are still in perfect / like new condition.

That being said - a 21" wheel is a really great option too as you can run a slightly higher profile and lower the car the exact same height. I think the 22's looks just slightly better but a 21 may be a better option if you need the rubber... (But make sure you can find the 21" tire first - I know they were tough to find here recently)
 
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Also check out this link:

Adv1 "porsche OEM+" options...

http://adv1wheels.com/private/porscheoem.php
 
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Also just to mention re: ride / perf quality that tires are the new pirelli Pzero Nero GT vs the stock ones that come on the panamera...
 
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Originally Posted by Pbread
I honestly feel like the ride is now better since switching over to the ADV1's as I feel like the car is more nimble and has more of a solid and responsive feeling ride. For one, the wheels are a forged monoblock design (vs I believe a cast OEM wheel) and are over 5lbs lighter than the OEM sport 20" wheels. I feel like the shedding of 6lbs unsprung per wheel (also saved 1 lb per wheel going to titanium lug bolts) is slightly noticeable. I've also had others drive my car before and after feel the same way. As far as lowering the car and the ride here - no difference really at all here as it's the same suspension (you don't have to mess with new springs etc) and I don't have it too low where it would scrape my driveway or anything pulling in. Also, with the lowering links, comfort mode is still the original height so you can always raise her up if you are concerned here. I will say however, that with the 30/25 profile tire, hitting pot holes or surface anomalies inherently will return a more harsh and jarring feedback however the forged monoblock design will provide the strength needed here to withstand. I live in the Atlanta area and our roads are in fairly good condition so I haven't had any issues really here (never hit a what you're describing as a "manhattan pothole"). The wheels are still in perfect / like new condition. That being said - a 21" wheel is a really great option too as you can run a slightly higher profile and lower the car the exact same height. I think the 22's looks just slightly better but a 21 may be a better option if you need the rubber... (But make sure you can find the 21" tire first - I know they were tough to find here recently)
Pbread,

Thanks for your detailed response....it's great and provides a very nice description of your ride quality.

I have to believe that the ride quality with the wider and lighter wheels, and the upgraded tires on smooth roads must be great!

The lower profile 25-series tires would indeed provide a jarring response over uneven road surfaces. I know exactly what that's like with my setup on my M5! I've already blown two tires on the M5 by hitting potholes and uneven expansion joints! Terrible experience!!!

I will absolutely look into the 21" option, though tire choices will be a big concern. I certainly won't find an all-season tire in this size, so I'd likely have the 21" setup for the non-winter/snow months only, and keep my OEM Turbo IIs for the winter.

A question for you regarding the lowering links. You indicate that the ride height in Comfort Mode is the same as the OEM ride height with the OEM links? I thought that the links would lower all the settings by the same amount. I was with the understanding that if you reduced the length of the OEM links by say 1/2", that all the ride height settings would then be lowered by 1/2". I guess that's not the case. Can you please elaborate?

Thanks again!
 
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What I believe happens is the FVD links are essentially adjustable rods that tell the sensors on the air suspension how low to drop the car on sport mode / low ride setting. When you disengage sport mode height it just goes back up to the high riding / comfort mode position. At least this is my understanding of the concept.

The links allow you to drop the car around 2" lower than normal sport mode... I have mine set at about 1" lower in rear and .75" lower in front.
 
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