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Oh and this is on 91 octane. Here in Vegas and Arizona we don't have 93. So an additive would boost it some more

Yes, same in the San Diego area. I'm considering these mods for my PT! Who installed yours? Wonder if someone in my area can hook me up with the same....
 
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Had Ard build the turbos and vivid install. I can get u lined up if your interested. Send me a pm with your contact info and I can get in touch about the details
 
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Had Ard build the turbos and vivid install. I can get u lined up if your interested. Send me a pm with your contact info and I can get in touch about the details

Thanks! PM sent.
 
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Wheels are built waiting on the tires. So stoked.
 
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Wheels are built waiting on the tires. So stoked.
Tires are here. Wide baby.
 
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Congratulations on the build. The car looks and sounds killer and 570 awhp on Mustang Dyno is very impressive.

Just to let you know, at the other side of the brand using basically the same 4.8 DFI engine but with turbo manifold and turbos being separate (not the manifold integrated turbine), a power consuming and old technology 6 speed tiptronic and other small things, 2008 957 Cayenne TT put down the same numbers using stock turbos and stock intercoolers.

Here is the dyno sheet showing Renaissance.Man hitting 566 hp and 630 tq at the wheels with stock TD04-18T turbos and stock intercoolers on a 2008 Cayenne 957 CTT with outdated and power consuming 6 speed tiptronic.



My point is the 4.8L DFI engine has a lot of potential and I'm sure Panamera TT guys can achieve much higher numbers with some tweaks such as bigger intake manifold and throttle body, ditching the manifold integrated turbine design and using some high tech turbos with custom turbo headers, methanol injection, etc.
 
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Congratulations on the build. The car looks and sounds killer and 570 awhp on Mustang Dyno is very impressive.

Just to let you know, at the other side of the brand using basically the same 4.8 DFI engine but with turbo manifold and turbos being separate (not the manifold integrated turbine), a power consuming and old technology 6 speed tiptronic and other small things, 2008 957 Cayenne TT put down the same numbers using stock turbos and stock intercoolers.

Here is the dyno sheet showing Renaissance.Man hitting 566 hp and 630 tq at the wheels with stock TD04-18T turbos and stock intercoolers on a 2008 Cayenne 957 CTT with outdated and power consuming 6 speed tiptronic.



My point is the 4.8L DFI engine has a lot of potential and I'm sure Panamera TT guys can achieve much higher numbers with some tweaks such as bigger intake manifold and throttle body, ditching the manifold integrated turbine design and using some high tech turbos with custom turbo headers, methanol injection, etc.
Yea I've kept up with rennisance build. Awsome car. I agree we should be putting down more. As these turbos can flow up to about 850. The biger difference between panny and cayenne is our Trans. It goes into limp mode and can't handle above 700 torque. That's why we have to dial it back down so this doesn't happen. Once Dodson makes a reinforcement for it u will see high hp running around. Depending on cost I'll figure it out when thus hapoens
 
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Congratulations on the build. The car looks and sounds killer and 570 awhp on Mustang Dyno is very impressive.

Just to let you know, at the other side of the brand using basically the same 4.8 DFI engine but with turbo manifold and turbos being separate (not the manifold integrated turbine), a power consuming and old technology 6 speed tiptronic and other small things, 2008 957 Cayenne TT put down the same numbers using stock turbos and stock intercoolers.

Here is the dyno sheet showing Renaissance.Man hitting 566 hp and 630 tq at the wheels with stock TD04-18T turbos and stock intercoolers on a 2008 Cayenne 957 CTT with outdated and power consuming 6 speed tiptronic.



My point is the 4.8L DFI engine has a lot of potential and I'm sure Panamera TT guys can achieve much higher numbers with some tweaks such as bigger intake manifold and throttle body, ditching the manifold integrated turbine design and using some high tech turbos with custom turbo headers, methanol injection, etc.
Bro do you understand that benblack turbos are rated 400hp/turbo vs 275hp/turbo of stock 18T . We dont need turboS biger manifold because we dont need more power. Benblack limited the power to keep his pdk safe.If our pdk handled 1000nm like tiptronic he would be at minimum on 650whp . Also on future goals we have a solution about fuel system ,using new favelift panamera injector which flows more fuel . So we dont need traveling around with high flamable fuel. I told you before and I will tell again panamera turbo is another category of performance . Only a ecu remap panamera turbo can archive a 60-130 in 8.2 . Please call us when big builds cayenne gets there.
 
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Also forgot to mention that benblack is remaped according to las vegas poor 91octane he can push more but no need to . Vivid Racing mustang dyno reads so low that their 825 hp 997.1 reads only 630 whp vs 700who that other tuners get .
You are a big buileder yourself according to your signature and you know that in the end dyno numbers means literally nothing.
Because I have talked with fvd and they told me no matter what cayenne cant push more than 620-650 even on high 100 octane and their 700 kit with 20T and big intercoolers only push 700hp. Even techart magnum only pushes 680hp and breaks some nice records. See dyno number means nothing
 
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Bro do you understand that benblack turbos are rated 400hp/turbo vs 275hp/turbo of stock 18T . We dont need turboS biger manifold because we dont need more power. Benblack limited the power to keep his pdk safe.If our pdk handled 1000nm like tiptronic he would be at minimum on 650whp . Also on future goals we have a solution about fuel system ,using new favelift panamera injector which flows more fuel . So we dont need traveling around with high flamable fuel. I told you before and I will tell again panamera turbo is another category of performance . Only a ecu remap panamera turbo can archive a 60-130 in 8.2 . Please call us when big builds cayenne gets there.
Buddy, don't get me wrong Panny TT is a nice all around performer but your numbers are all around the place and are wrong.

Below are the compressor flow maps of TD04-18T and TD04-19T turbos. Using 1lb/min = 14.472 cfm, you will see that TD04-18T turbos are rated at approx. 350 HP each, TD04-19T turbos are rated at 380 HP each and TD04-20T will probably hit 50 HP more, yielding 430 HP each.





I'm sure off course you know all of this based on your comments. Don't forget that the tipronic is costing around 50 whp where the PDK is direct and doesn't consume any of the power.

I've driven both cars. Stock vs stock Panny TT is definitely a better performer but when you start modifying both cars, things start to change.

60-130 mph 8.28 sec is a good value but not that difficult to achieve as you think.
 
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well looks like the site I got the information about 18T is wrong .If you could send me the site to know how much 20T can flow it would help me alot
A friend of mine is going to buy my cayenne and I convinced him to do techart magnum kit and upgrade to different intercooler, 20t ecu and tcu remap so we will se if it turn out in a true daily monster.If he doesnt I will end up with 2 750 hp Porsches


Also in my opinion , in the end there isnt , literally any car out there I would trade my panamera turbo .Thats how good it is .
 
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well looks like the site I got the information about 18T is wrong .If you could send me the site to know how much 20T can flow it would help me alot
A friend of mine is going to buy my cayenne and I convinced him to do techart magnum kit and upgrade to different intercooler, 20t ecu and tcu remap so we will se if it turn out in a true daily monster.If he doesnt I will end up with 2 750 hp Porsches

Also in my opinion , in the end there isnt , literally any car out there I would trade my panamera turbo .Thats how good it is .
I love my panny wish the cayenne was alittle bigger 4 kids we would own that too. To me having these heavy monsters run the way they do is awsome
 
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I love my panny wish the cayenne was alittle bigger 4 kids we would own that too. To me having these heavy monsters run the way they do is awsome
well you could always buy one , their depreciation is huge and the prices people sell 957 TT here is a joke . Ben how is the pdk behaving in lasvegas heat ?
 


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