Hello gents - I am the ongoing happy owner of a '13 GTS. I was leasing it, but money is so inexpensive right now, and I really enjoy the car, that I just bought the car early off lease.

That said, I know that they made some cosmetic and motor changes to the '14/15 model. Has anyone had the chance to drive both? If so, were the changes really that noticeable? I ask, as while I love my car, like many on here, I get the "Porsche itch," and would consider trading up for the newer on in a few months if the differences really are worth it.

Another thing in my mind is that at 18K miles, my car to date has been just bullet proof...so, I am also thinking that the "devil you know is better than the one you don't"....meaning, perhaps regardless, I stick with my known commodity.

Either way, the GTS is a spectacular car!

 

The sport exhaust changed I believe and I am certain the ride has improved - it was very noticeable in my '14 PTT vs my prior car. The interior is identical and the only thing that I liked was the blind spot warning - otherwise very similar. I would get a PTT for a change of pace

 

Like you, I have a '13 970 GTS. I bought it at the very end of its run - one of the very last cars before the 2nd generation came out. Frankly, I'd intended to wait, and cross-shop the '14 970 GTS vs. the E63 awd wagon vs. the RS7.

My dealer made me the proverbial "offer I couldn't refuse" so I bought the '13. With that said, I don't regret it for a moment. The '14 has a very slightly revised body. The shape of the headlights, rear window, and rear deck are slightly changed. I don't think any of them are noticeable unless the car is parked right next to a '13. The reshaped (barely) rear window does nothing to add to the limited visibility. My first Panamera didn't have a rear-view camera; I'm glad my new one does!

The "biggest" difference is an extra 10 hp. Sorry, even a finely tuned "butt dyno" will have trouble feeling the difference between 430 and 440 hp. The claimed 0-60 time improved by 0.1 seconds. Again, probably not even noticeable. I'm not aware of any other significant changes, except possibly the "all view" camera now available, as opposed to the mere back-up camera that was available on our cars. Oh, and they changed the shape of the exhaust pipes. (I do like the new ones better.)

I can't think of any reason at all to give up a '13 GTS, which is running well, for a newer one. Not yet, anyway. Now if they ever put the Sport Touring body (from the Paris show a year or two ago) on sale, THAT'S a different story!! Our Panameras will never win a beauty contest, but the Sport Touring sure could.

DMoore
'13 991S
'13 970GTS

 

Thanks for the replies...all makes sense. The "only" reason I would consider switching is that as alluded in the original post....someone had informed me that the "handling" characteristics of the car were now different...not just the ride quality. So, I assumed perhaps they tweaked the steering , or the suspension components, etc. I guess I should likely just go to dealer this weekend and try to drive a newer one as a comparison. But, like you said, unless I am somehow Blown Away, I will likely stay with the known commodity right now, as I really do enjoy the car tremendously as my DD.

Cole

 

?? Maybe someone drove a new car with PDCC vs. older one without it? That could certainly lead to a conclusion that the handling had improved.

DMoore
'13 970GTS
'13 991S

 

I just got a 2014 PTTS and am blown away at the difference between this and the 2011 PTT
I had. The 2014 car is a more engaging vehicle and has a much better exhaust note. I am note sure if this is the same case for the GTS but just my 2 cents.

 

agreed - my 2014 PTT was significantly different driver than the prior one I had.

 

[QUOTE=DMoore;4216176]?? Maybe someone drove a new car with PDCC vs. older one without it? That could certainly lead to a conclusion that the handling had improved.

No...my current car has PDCC (which I consider essential). Anyway, going to drive the newer GTS at the dealer this weekend and will report back my perspective. Thanks for the feedback.

 

I had a 2010 PTT now to a 2014 P4S and the difference is pretty noticeable in interior noise isolation, handling and even the transmission setup. However, yours is a much newer car then my '10 PTT and I really don't see the huge advantage going to a '14 for you.

I would drive your beautiful GTS and move over to the redesign Panamera GTS in a couple years.

 

fkim just curious if the move to the 2014 p4s from 2010 ptt was worth it in your mind.

 

Nick, I had one of the very early builds of the PTT so I never got to have the options I wanted for this car and a lot of unnecessary options were on the car as well since I bought it off the lot.

I actually ordered the 2014 P4S sight unseen nor did I have a test drive in it but from my previous experiences ( 986 Boxster, Cayman, 997 C2S, 957 Cayenne, 958 Cayenne) there has always been subtle year by year improvements through every model line. Whenever a minor refresh occurred in any of the Porsche lines, the car always came out better, so that's what made me order the 2014 without even a test drive.

Is it worth it? I think so. My PTT PDK drove me crazy with its hesitation, and sometimes surges on throttle input. I had an update to the PDK software but it still didn't fix the issue. The transmission software wasn't as well sorted out as it should of been at that point. I recently test drove a 2014 PTT, and that all has been sorted out now. The car actually feels more solid and stable at higher speeds then my older PTT ever did. I decided to go the P4S route compared to ordering another Turbo because I really didn't know how long I would keep this car. Also, my commute is 110 miles round trip and that extra 2-3 MPG means a lot in the short realm of things for me.

 

Fkim, thanks for a great response. I am wondering if one of those GIAC or FVD remapping would have helped with the hesitation?

 

My thoughts as well - I believe the would've...

 

My 2015 GTS gets here in a couple weeks and I am pretty stoked. I drove a 2014 GTS and test drove the crap out of a 2013. To me, the new one is a tad louder if that's possible. Might be the intake. I ordered mine with PDCC which means I will be driving to the limits of that hot V8. I thought the 2013 was fantastic and I love the brakes! Just making a great thing better.
I also ordered the sport design rear fascia at a cool $2100. Jet Black metallic.

 

It could of fixed it but my car was so new at that point I didn't want to give Porsche a reason not to keep trying to fix the issue. Also, I didn't want them to come at me and say the mods was an issue with the tranny.