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I have a 2013 CPO Pan GTS. Excellent car and no issues.
From my Ferrari experience I would only add that it is important for these cars to have a good battery. If you don't make a habit of keeping it on a battery charger when not driven much (longer than three days) buy a new battery after four years. Low battery voltage seems to cause a whole pile of electrical issues. The best thing that you can do for these cars is use a battery tender. Manufacturers (except Ferrari they are very clear about this) are hesitant to tell customers that they need to keep their petrol cars plugged in, but this does solve a lot of problems proactively IMO. This is also my experience with BMW's - a fact that was confirmed to me by a friend who is a senior warranty tech manager with BMWNA
Wish I could.
It's been a month now and still no diagnosis. Who would buy such a high end car in such a condition, unless it were highly discounted.
Porsche has no idea how to fix it and were even considering returning it to me, as is, so I could drive it some more, until the faults return more regularly (apparently they're having difficulty replicating the faults).
Anyhow, I guess I should just be happy with the Cayenne diesel I have as a loaner, since everything seems to work just fine.
I purchased a 2010 4s from the local dealer here in Brisbane. Its a great car to drive and far more practical than the 997 T it replaced.
The main issue I have is the numerous warning lights that change on a weekly basis. This week I have engine light, PSM and 4WD fault.
I went back to Porsche again so they could turn the lights off and check over the vehicle. However on this visit they reported no 3 cylinder misfire.
I couldn't leave the car and they didn't have the part or the time to fix it.
On returning home I removed and tested the ignition coils on the offside cyl block. Cylinders 1-4. Number 3 had a poor output. I will replace the coil on number 3 tomorrow. Let's see if it clears the problem.
After 2 years of ownership I do feel that this model has many issues with 'gost' electrical issues that come and go.
Battery was change 3 months which appeared to help a little. (800) . The coils are 90 AUD retail.
i've had a variety of issues that, if not under CPO, would have cost me over $6k (conservative estimate). Some of those were actual issues with the car, some were issues caused by improper repair done by the dealer. Logically, I believe Panameras to be generally reliable (based on 2006 Carrera ownership experience and other Porsche owners' input), but emotionally, I don't "trust" my car based on all the times it's been in the dealer in the slightly-longer-than-a-year i've owned it.
I thank the flying spaghetti monster every day that I bought a CPO vehicle. I would be truly hating life right now if I hadn't. I hope that, over time, issues become more of a distant memory than a frequently occurring event.
My gf (who owns a 2011 Cayman) says I don't know how you put up with it (referring to the number of times I'm driving a loaner instead of the car I paid for).
Believe it or not, after a total 7 visits and 150 days in the dealership, Porsche finally found the cause of all the car's problems. It was simply a short between two wires under the drivers seat (see pics below). Apparently it was a short to positive that was taking down the whole CAN. I can't believe that such small wires can cause so much trouble... Anyhow, I've very happy to finally get my car back.
It throws multiple chassis/suspension faults when temps are below freezing.
Electronic fuel pump control failed @ a cost of $4000.00 (total). This left us stranded twice needing flat bed tow before repair.
Front suspension was completely replaced per dealer recommendation. Worn out etc? $7000.00.
Coil packs (several) failed at 45k resulting in check engine light & very rough idle. All 8 were Replaced @ a cost of ~$800.
Other than that its been ok since . But im always nervous on a long road trip.
Seems odd to feel that way with a $186,000 Porsche " super car"
It throws multiple chassis/suspension faults when temps are below freezing.
Electronic fuel pump control failed @ a cost of $4000.00 (total). This left us stranded twice needing flat bed tow before repair.
Front suspension was completely replaced per dealer recommendation. Worn out etc? $7000.00.
Coil packs (several) failed at 45k resulting in check engine light & very rough idle. All 8 were Replaced @ a cost of ~$800.
Other than that its been ok since . But im always nervous on a long road trip.
Seems odd to feel that way with a $186,000 Porsche " super car"
is that of repairs $12,000 in one year?
if so, you can be driving a brand new one, with that extra $1000 a month.
Seems to me that the older ones are more likely to have issues. Newer ones seem to be solid. I m sure there are exceptions.
True,
if u have the " older bad ones" with electrical gremlins- ur screwed.
Porsche had a factory recall for the electronic fuel control unit for all early 4.8 Cayennes/Panamera's. Once u get that replaced & update the front suspension on earlier Turbos then u are most likely to have a reliable car.
From my experience the adaptive air suspension does not like sub freezing temps. It always malfunctions throwing chassis failure codes.
09-09-2016, 10:19 PM
