Panamera The 4-dour coupe by Porsche

should I stay or should I go?

Old Jun 24, 2020 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ciaka
I would agree, I would give a lot to put that exhaust note from Maserati, onto my Panamera turbo. Hmmmm...
Anything else I would not give up from the PTT.

 
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 09:24 PM
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I wanted to share my Alfa Romeo Guila Quadrifoglio experience with this thread. So I did leave my 2010 970 4S for the Alfa. I am no longer in the Alfa after just over a year. So the test drive was mesmerizing leading to the ultimate purchase. Turn to Race mode smash the accelerator and listen and feel the savagery. Great fun. It eats tires but I've never been happier buying replacements. So that was one issue, in slight rain or full rain you better be ready to catch this car twitch. This was my daily driver and I live in Houston so it rains often. Then you notice the driver door doesn't really seal. You hear a lot of road noise. One response in this thread mentioned less build quality than Porsche and yes that is very true. This next one may not be the vehicle's fault but my Samsung phone would not stay connected to the multimedia. The map would cut out every 10 seconds. Same with music from the connected phone. Chalk this one into the growing list of nuisance items and the driving experience begins to degrade. Next Alfa has somehow found a way to laser focus the seatbelt chime sound directly into your left year. You may not notice on a test drive but after a few months of ownership it gets really old. I know I can get in and buckle up first but I'm an old man set in my ways of hopping and firing up then getting situated for go. I've not encountered another vehicle this annoying with the seatbelt chime. Next thing I didn't consider is service. So this Quadrifoglio is very different monster than other Guilas. So when you need to book service be prepared for the $30k Guila's to have hogged up all the loaners and you wait a month or two for the next appointment. Never had this experience with my M3 or Panamera at the dealership. Why need service on a brand new car? Its an Alfa right. It is difficult to not want to enjoy that engine. It is a great engine when its fully functional. Nothing is worse than when you car strands you. I only got close to being stranded but that was enough for me. The first time I was in Dynamic mode giving it moderate power when all the CEL came on and the power dropped away. Car still running. Fortunately I was only one stop light from home. As I waited for green the cabin filled with gasoline vapor, lots of it. Smoke poured from the tail pipes, I am sure I was quite the spectacle. As I was in the car, I wasn't aware of the smoke just yet. I really believed I was in a traffic line next to a diesel truck that had to be the source of the smell. Nope it was my car. Light goes green I get home and my asks what is on Fire? Nice right. Flatbed and warranty repair, no loaner. Got the car back during WFH so not a lot of drive time. Decided to drive from my home in NE Houston to Sugarland for grins and the lack of traffic. You can imagine clear day, no beltway traffic, and 505 HP. Grin on my face as I get to Sugarland and more CEL. Now I am a long way from home on a Sunday morning. At least no gasoline vapors or smoke this time. I get to a stop and shut down the car. I am hoping a CTRL ALT DEL event for when I am ready to drive home. Nope. The car is drive able at reduced power and not stinky or smokey. That was it for me. It was mostly enjoyable. I did like the design and really liked the engine. The other things that go in the nuisance bin are the fob has buttons arranged that allow for the "Panic" button to be pressed by just moving like a normal human. This means getting out of your car or walking to it and the car alarm is blaring. Also with the key fob, the convenience approach feature only pertains to the front doors. This means either adapting your entry/exit routine to push the unlock button inside the door to access the back door, where I keep my work bag, or the fuel door. Small issue but not something my Panamera every bothered me with. Finally, I am not trying to dissuade anyone from a Quadrifoglio but I would buy it pre owned and certfied, if I had it to do over instead of new.
I am so glad to have read your post on the Ferrari engined Giulia. A couple of years ago I drove to the Alfa dealership, with my wife, to check out the new Giulias. The salesmen were impressed with my Panny, and were wondering what I was looking for on their lot. I explained I was looking for a car for my wife and would like to drive a Giulia. We drove a normal V6 and I was under-whelmed. I have always loved the older Alfa's and was really looking forward to them re-establishing the brand here in the U.S. I wanted to love the car, but there were no special vibes, like I have with my Panny. The build quality and materials were average. After the test drive I informed the salesman we were going across the street to test drive an Audi. He asked me to come inside the showroom and look at another car. They had a Rosso Red Quadrifoglio sitting there. It was beautiful. The engine was beautiful, the inside was beautiful. I wanted to buy that car so much, right there, but it was not suitable for my wife as a daily driver, and I already had 500hp on tap with the Panny.

Now that I read your post, I feel much better. The Ferrari built engine is the crown jewel of that car, but the Italians still have a ways to go to match the build quality of the Porsche, and the Audi for that matter. We ended up with an A7 Tdi Prestige for the little wifey and it is so nice.
 
Old Jul 17, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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I think you selected the correct vehicle in the Audi.
 
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