hello, I had a ruptured line on the tranny oil cooler line, fixed it and put Pentocin F1 instead of the FFL 3 on my dual clutch 2016 Panamera, unknowingly.. will that affect it, should I take it all out and replace it ?

 

Hey guys., I sure appreciate all the info I’m getting, i have a 2016 Panamera with dual clutch, had a leak in the cooler, fixed it, but topped it off with Pentocin F1 instead of the FFL3. Will that affect it? Also, how do I prime the selenoids cause I’m in limp mode and it doesn’t want to go in reverse..?? How do I take it off limp mode ??

 

I would drain and refill with the proper stuff

 

Exactly what DOGWOOD recommended! To give you a better rationale of why you need to is that the Gear oil you put in is actually much thicker in viscocity compared to the PDK fluid... If you mix it up, you would have two different weight oils competing for each other and the problem lies in the solenoid body... If it cant pump through the fluid quick enough, you will definitely be getting clutch slip and that wreaks havoc on the entire system at higher RPMS or sustained highway speeds... I highly recommend warming up the car to operating temps and then drain the fluid right after so that you can get as much of the gear oil out. As a precauation, I would personally change out the fluid, drive the car for 20 miles and then redrain again and fill with flesh fluid. The reason being is that you will have a bit of the thicker oil held in at the filter.

 

I paid $20.xx a pop (1L) for that fluid. Maybe change out the pan and change fluid once?

 

Yes, doing pan and fluid at once is best.
Yes, fluid is expensive, but once you mix it with other fluid not intended for this PDK, you are at risk of doing damage to the PDK (and no one knows what the damage can be). That PDK will cost you $25K new, so if you accidentally mixed wrong fluid into PDK, you must be ok with the choice you will make.
If you do not replace fluid, just be prepared in case issues come up (gearing not changing, heat, seals, etc being damaged, etc, or worse).
If I did this, I would be swearing at myself, but would also be doing the change of fluid. Only one outcome can make you sure to protect the PDK, and it is the fluid drain and refill with correct oil.

Let us know what you decide my friend. Your car, your choice. Take care.

 

I am planning to change the transmission oil pan/filter on my Panamera Turbo. I'm also going to be filling it with Motul DCTF as you have done. Would you kindly please share the procedure to prime the solenoids?

Thanks heaps in advance!

 

/bumpitty. Anyone know the prime process?

 

Just use the damn oem fluid. Sunset Porsche parts has it reasonably priced.

 

I would only use Pentosin ffl3. Reason being these cars are too expensive to experiment. Older older porsches had time for folks to experiment, etc. If you ok with risking it, go ahead, use other fluid. I wont risk mine. Thanks.

what is the reason for folks to want prime the solenoids?

 

Someone above said the solenoids needed to be primed post fluid change. Thus the question

 

If you are doing just a fluid change you probably don't need to prime the solenoids. I've seen a video of someone explaining the reasoning why it isn't needed and it makes sense for just a fluid change.

However, if you are changing the transmission pan as well then to be on the safe side you should prime the solenoids. The recommended method is to activate the PDK fill mode. I was hoping there was an alternative proposed in this thread as I am not sure my NT530 has this feature.

 

Just got notice that Porsche SnapOn tools shipped my VAS6563 filling pumps set, earlier than the week of June 7th estimate. 🙂

Unscrew plug and drain.
Replace with NEW plug (15 Mm)

Open inspection/fill hole (might be advisable to verify you can unscrew this bolt prior to draining), and fill.

Replace (old) plug
​​​​​​Start engine, press brake pedal, shift (slowly) P-R-N-D (3x), back to P.

With PIWIS or equivalent scan tool watch ATF temp until it reaches 40 C + 5 C
​​​​​​Turn engine off wait 2 mins.

Open fill hole and fill until it flows out.

Replace with NEW plug (35 Nm)

 

Full PDK service - Fluid and Pan/filter. Do I need to replace all the bolts? I have Durametric it is useless, No temp monitoring. What diagnostic equipment I need beside PIWIS3? I am so tempting to buy PIWIS3 from VXDAX, but Jesse said it is not plug-n-play with my old Dell Lat Laptop. Porsche just quotes $1150 for PDK service with 10% discount. LOL ... what the heck ...
I also notice about

Trans Pan Sealer - Porsche (000-043-305-73)

I guess I need the sealer to make sure it will be no leak ...
I greatly appreciate your feedback.

 

Hi Doug,

I am sorry for the miscommunication! I never bought anything from VXDAS, so I can't tell you whether it is plug and play or not. Please do not judge them from my experience with vxdiagshop. When I received my set (including laptop) it would not connect to our '13 Panamera. I had to update the VXDiag Software and the MultiDiag firmware before it worked...

I do have a Foxwell NT510 Elite I purchased after Foxwell refunded me fully for my NT644Pro. I think I used that....