Gt3 style ram air intakes
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So men ive been thinking about a GT3 Style Ram Air Intakes on the deck lid and what a great addition they would make to our turbos both in looks and performance.
If we had enough people interested Im hoping we could get Joe to design a set?
Let us know if you would be interested in having a Ram style Air intake on your deck lid?
IMO it only needs to be a simple add on addition similar to Joes amazing IC intakes.
Cheers men
Tim
If we had enough people interested Im hoping we could get Joe to design a set?
Let us know if you would be interested in having a Ram style Air intake on your deck lid?
IMO it only needs to be a simple add on addition similar to Joes amazing IC intakes.
Cheers men
Tim
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I could be interested, depending on how the quality is and the end result... I've also considered the 996 GT2 or 997 GT2 decklid since it has the intakes as well.
I'd be more interested if he would do a gurney flap for the 996 GT2 wing...
I'd be more interested if he would do a gurney flap for the 996 GT2 wing...
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I have been searching... ok well begging for someone to make me a gurney flap for a 996GT2 spoiler!
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Ok Tim, you've poached me over here from another thread. Now explain to me the benefit ram jet as l'm not too familiar with them. Going by the name it sounds like its designed to ram more air into the enginge bay, is this correct.
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GT3's have this design already under there wing my idea would be low profile and either replace or attach to the slats ahead of our retractable wing forcing more air into the air box and over the engine as the engine fan already does.
Ill get my laptop ouy and post some pics soon if I dont get taken for Major Surgery on my shoulder this morning as im still in hospital with this damn shoulder infection.
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Ok, thanks. I found some on the net.
Thats the idea Jimbo I hope you and other members agree that a similar addition to a 996T would be brilliant
Personally I prefer the last picture
Would love to have your input as well Hound
Ok, thanks. I found some on the net.
Thats the idea Jimbo I hope you and other members agree that a similar addition to a 996T would be brilliant
Personally I prefer the last picture
Would love to have your input as well Hound
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[QUOTE=timccloud;4514887]The ram air GT3 intakes are a proven concept on the GT3 which has shown to provide a few extra HP at speed (mainly at 100+ mph) due to the positive pressure ram air effect at the throttle body which normally runs at a slight vacuum on a normally aspirated car. As such, the positive ram air is providing a very slight "turbocharging" effect to the GT3 which translates to a few extra ponies at speed. The amount of benefit on our turbocharged cars will obviously be much less but in theory will be there probably helping to make the turbocharger spool slightly faster but at speed where this ram air effect is present your turbos are in most cases already spooled up.
With that said, when I swapped to a Cup style decklid that I'm running now which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. Well, I take that back. My lap times did drop but that was the result of higher cornering speeds due to the greater downforce. You could argue that there was a benefit as my straight line speeds stayed the same despite the increased downforce / drag of the large Cup wing. That aside, my data did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02..., YMMV..
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
With that said, when I swapped to a Cup style decklid that I'm running now which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. Well, I take that back. My lap times did drop but that was the result of higher cornering speeds due to the greater downforce. You could argue that there was a benefit as my straight line speeds stayed the same despite the increased downforce / drag of the large Cup wing. That aside, my data did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02..., YMMV..
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
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[QUOTE=pwdrhound;4514949]
The ram air GT3 intakes are a proven concept on the GT3 which has shown to provide a few extra HP at speed (mainly at 100+ mph) due to the positive pressure ram air effect at the throttle body which normally runs at a slight vacuum on a normally aspirated car. As such, the positive ram air is providing a very slight "turbocharging" effect to the GT3 which translates to a few extra ponies at speed. The amount of benefit on our turbocharged cars will obviously be much less but in theory will be there probably helping to make the turbocharger spool slightly faster but at speed where this ram air effect is present your turbos are in most cases already spooled up.
With that said, when I went to a Cup style decklid which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. My data also did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02...
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
We used to use ram air fed intakes on duramaxes and did see a 1-2 tenth increase on 1/4 mile ET times so it does work on a turbocharged setup. It's going to be the power increase verse extra drag though with the 911.
I think mostly on our cars it's could increase cooler, dense air entering the intake system.
The ram air GT3 intakes are a proven concept on the GT3 which has shown to provide a few extra HP at speed (mainly at 100+ mph) due to the positive pressure ram air effect at the throttle body which normally runs at a slight vacuum on a normally aspirated car. As such, the positive ram air is providing a very slight "turbocharging" effect to the GT3 which translates to a few extra ponies at speed. The amount of benefit on our turbocharged cars will obviously be much less but in theory will be there probably helping to make the turbocharger spool slightly faster but at speed where this ram air effect is present your turbos are in most cases already spooled up.
With that said, when I went to a Cup style decklid which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. My data also did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02...
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
I think mostly on our cars it's could increase cooler, dense air entering the intake system.
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[QUOTE=pwdrhound;4514949]
The ram air GT3 intakes are a proven concept on the GT3 which has shown to provide a few extra HP at speed (mainly at 100+ mph) due to the positive pressure ram air effect at the throttle body which normally runs at a slight vacuum on a normally aspirated car. As such, the positive ram air is providing a very slight "turbocharging" effect to the GT3 which translates to a few extra ponies at speed. The amount of benefit on our turbocharged cars will obviously be much less but in theory will be there probably helping to make the turbocharger spool slightly faster but at speed where this ram air effect is present your turbos are in most cases already spooled up.
With that said, when I swapped to a Cup style decklid that I'm running now which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. Well, I take that back. My lap times did drop but that was the result of higher cornering speeds due to the greater downforce. You could argue that there was a benefit as my straight line speeds stayed the same despite the increased downforce / drag of the large Cup wing. That aside, my data did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02..., YMMV..
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
LOL, great post. I like the zero improvement part.
I'm sure it vents some additional air as Hound stated but, will it be enough to speed up the turbo turbine on our setup? I think Engine compartment temperate would be a debate.
Tim, great innovative idea here. I'd be concerned with water though. Ever wash your car and immediately drive it?
The ram air GT3 intakes are a proven concept on the GT3 which has shown to provide a few extra HP at speed (mainly at 100+ mph) due to the positive pressure ram air effect at the throttle body which normally runs at a slight vacuum on a normally aspirated car. As such, the positive ram air is providing a very slight "turbocharging" effect to the GT3 which translates to a few extra ponies at speed. The amount of benefit on our turbocharged cars will obviously be much less but in theory will be there probably helping to make the turbocharger spool slightly faster but at speed where this ram air effect is present your turbos are in most cases already spooled up.
With that said, when I swapped to a Cup style decklid that I'm running now which has these ram air intakes on it, I could tell exactly zero improvement in lap times or max speed at the end of the straight at my track where I normally reach about 143mph. Well, I take that back. My lap times did drop but that was the result of higher cornering speeds due to the greater downforce. You could argue that there was a benefit as my straight line speeds stayed the same despite the increased downforce / drag of the large Cup wing. That aside, my data did not bear out any measurable improvement. I'm sure slightly pressurizing the air box is a good thing and an improvement is there but it's not big enough for me measure, and certainly not "feel". I even went the extra step of making sure I have a very good seal on the air box with the decklid. I screwed the rubber seal to the air box to make it airtight and also have a tight seal with carbon plate in the decklid. The factory rubber seal that is attached to the snorchel in many cases has a very poor fit / seal with the air box. Just my $0.02..., YMMV..
[url=https://flic.kr/p/H78Gag]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/waag1R]
LOL, great post. I like the zero improvement part.
I'm sure it vents some additional air as Hound stated but, will it be enough to speed up the turbo turbine on our setup? I think Engine compartment temperate would be a debate.
Tim, great innovative idea here. I'd be concerned with water though. Ever wash your car and immediately drive it?