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Long wheelbase, huge rear overhang, still not a fan of the creases, especially on the rear haunches (same with those on the DB11). The current cars are aging beautifully because they're aggressively styled in some ways, but they're mostly curves. I think the strong pinch lines all over the place are going to date these cars down the road. Gotta reserve final judgment, of course, until the finished car actually gets unveiled.
Long wheelbase, huge rear overhang, still not a fan of the creases, especially on the rear haunches (same with those on the DB11). The current cars are aging beautifully because they're aggressively styled in some ways, but they're mostly curves. I think the strong pinch lines all over the place are going to date these cars down the road. Gotta reserve final judgment, of course, until the finished car actually gets unveiled.
+1. The current line of Vantage cars is among the most beautiful I've ever seen of any era. Graceful, I think, is they key word, and hard edges are rarely graceful. Bring it on though, it'll just help ours appreciate more in 20 years.
CATTMAN
Case in point, this angle. The door on the mule is square with a massive window. The outgoing Vantage has a rounded door with a smaller window.
If you look at the middle section of the mule (and the DB11), the window line drops down before the rear haunches of the car. It's done on purpse as it's intended to make the car look like it's got this power that's balling up and ready to unleash (think of how a drag car sits up on its rear wheels before launching forward). But it makes the window line drop down, which makes the window much bigger. Not only does that ruin the proportions that Aston uses to make everything perfect (that whole golden ratio thing), it also makes the low point look weak - that spot at the trailing edge of the door where the window is lowest along the side. The window line of the outgoing Vantage actually goes up along the side, making the whole side look strong.
I'm just rambling at this point and yes I know it's still under development, I'm just not too excited about the new Vantage anymore so I guess this is just me venting my frustration and trying to suspend my premature disappointment.
Rich, don't be too discouraged. Those mules rarely have much to do with what ends up in the showrooms, and AM, while not without it's missteps, have a great track record for producing elegant cars, not fugly ones like in those spy shots. This is Aston Martin we're talking about, not Nissan.
CATTMAN
Long wheelbase, huge rear overhang, still not a fan of the creases, especially on the rear haunches (same with those on the DB11). The current cars are aging beautifully because they're aggressively styled in some ways, but they're mostly curves. I think the strong pinch lines all over the place are going to date these cars down the road. Gotta reserve final judgment, of course, until the finished car actually gets unveiled.
I hope it looks like this or worse (closer to an GTR) and receives a V6TT engine, paired with an automatic transmission.
This would make sure we keep value on our Vantage models.
Originally Posted by C4Sbeebe
isn't the new DB11 a 5.0 v12 with twin turbos? every manufacturer is turning to turbos and smaller displacement. don't be surprised if it happens.
Zettinger was saying to do all that to make them less desirable, thus helping values for the outgoing Vantages.
The DB11 has a 5.2L twin turbo V12 designed entirely by Aston Martin. The AMG GT's 4.0L twin turbo V8 is going to be used in the upcoming generation of Vantage, and supposedly as a "base engine" for the DB11 to slot below the V12 (not sure if that's actually happening, though).
You can't really see all of the styling nuances of a disguised car. This is why manufactures camouflage there cars so people cannot see all the details of the new model. Also car companies have been known to place powerplants of different configurations in different models that they would normally not be in just for testing. So let's hold on and see what the car looks like when it's not disguised.
Ron
agreed. very common for mules to be running the drivetrain of another model during testing. it does appear to have a long-ish wheelbase for a vantage, so it's possible this is simply a mule that's used for specific purposes across a model range. typically, as you get closer to introduction, the true bodies are underneath the camo. just hypothesizing.
If you look at the rear quarter closely, you can see that they have taped some additional cladding to completely cover the body lines. See how the edges ripple and tape has wrinkles. This tells you almost nothing about the final lines on the care.