Another ES650 997.2TT PDK - 697 awhp stock VTGs
Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Last edited by thegame; Dec 19, 2017 at 07:05 AM.
Originally Posted by thegame
Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Great question, Ali can chime in as well but the stock 997.2 turbos are large and can flow more air/power than the stock fuel system can handle, so when you get the best Cobb tuner on the planet plus a good meth system flow, the man himself Emre can achieve spectacular results.
yes gents
the stock fuel system is the limitation here.
stock Turbos still has room in them.
although my turbos are ported and polished to correct some flawed air channels from factory and enhance overall air velocity; i don't think they added a ton of real whp. Could be around 20whp max?
we are at the limit of the fuel system. Everything else is within control for Emre to make it safe running tune.
we'll see what's next
Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Hello guys,
To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.
So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.
We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.
I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here
Emre
To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.
So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.
We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.
I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here

Emre
Hello guys,
To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.
So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.
We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.
I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here
Emre
To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.
So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.
We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.
I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here

Emre
Thanks Emre
I am sure Emre well
as a community of enthusiasts, I believe we should share the negative experiences in an objective matter.. not only the positive things
I have an older post relating my troubles...srm fuel pump... I don't want to sound like a basher



