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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Great results! Congrats!
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Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?

Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
 

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Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?

Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
Great question, Ali can chime in as well but the stock 997.2 turbos are large and can flow more air/power than the stock fuel system can handle, so when you get the best Cobb tuner on the planet plus a good meth system flow, the man himself Emre can achieve spectacular results.
 
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Great question, Ali can chime in as well but the stock 997.2 turbos are large and can flow more air/power than the stock fuel system can handle, so when you get the best Cobb tuner on the planet plus a good meth system flow, the man himself Emre can achieve spectacular results.
Makes sense!
 
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Although the turbo wheels are stock, I believe Ali has done some custom porting to the turbos to help get these results. I am sure he can chime in to clarify.
 
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Although the turbo wheels are stock, I believe Ali has done some custom porting to the turbos to help get these results. I am sure he can chime in to clarify.

yes gents
the stock fuel system is the limitation here.

stock Turbos still has room in them.

although my turbos are ported and polished to correct some flawed air channels from factory and enhance overall air velocity; i don't think they added a ton of real whp. Could be around 20whp max?

we are at the limit of the fuel system. Everything else is within control for Emre to make it safe running tune.

we'll see what's next
 
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Originally Posted by thegame
Just curious why I have seen some 997.2 builds with upgraded 68mm VTG turbos make even less power than this package? Is it because of the meth, it allows a more aggressive tune that is still safe? I am guessing the stock turbos are maxed out as well as the fuel system with this bolt on/meth package?

Maybe with a turbo upgrade you would then need rods/dodson clutches for the PDK as well as an upgraded fuel system to fully take advantage of the turbo upgrade?
IMHO.. yes. I won't do a turbo upgrade or change the turbos unless I do a fuel system + built engine + clutches for the PDK.
 
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Before the port and fine tune

the car ran the below numbers


 
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Hello guys,

To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.

So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.

We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.

I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here

Emre
 
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So, has anyone solved the fuel limitation? I was one of the probably few persons that bought an upgraded fuel pump( not saying from whom) and it was a mess...
 
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Originally Posted by Emre@Esmotor
Hello guys,

To be honest, VTG upgrade doesn't make worthy difference on 997.2TT because the stock turbochargers are working very effective till the end of fuel system.

So you can max out stock fuel system with stock turbochargers if you tune the ECU correctly.

We upgrade the turbos when stock turbochargers are worn out or need repair.

I would ofcourse like to sell more VTG upgrades on 997.2tt platform but i don't want to lie here

Emre

Thanks Emre
 
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So, has anyone solved the fuel limitation? I was one of the probably few persons that bought an upgraded fuel pump( not saying from whom) and it was a mess...

I am sure Emre well
 
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Originally Posted by Jose Hernandez
So, has anyone solved the fuel limitation? I was one of the probably few persons that bought an upgraded fuel pump( not saying from whom) and it was a mess...
I would like to know what's the brand you got.. if u don't want to share in public, pls PM me.


as a community of enthusiasts, I believe we should share the negative experiences in an objective matter.. not only the positive things
 
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I would like to know what's the brand you got.. if u don't want to share in public, pls PM me.


as a community of enthusiasts, I believe we should share the negative experiences in an objective matter.. not only the positive things
I have an older post relating my troubles...srm fuel pump... I don't want to sound like a basher
 


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