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Oh boy.. Nice clean work.
Thanks timdawg. You're the beast when it comes to navigating around the pcar.
 
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
E85 costs less but it has less energy per volume, too, so you wind up using more of it (MPG goes down). Consequently, the cost per mile doesn't change much... definitely not recouping the investment over 150 tanks of gas.

Why do it? Well, the benefit, especially if you have E85 stations near where you live, is that you basically get race gas performance all the time, at pump gas prices (cost per mile).

This is a fuel system designed to support a high output, built-motor configuration.
There is an E85 gas station close to you Brett so your place is still on my list of approved visiting destinations

Originally Posted by Swole Powell
Its a good setup we ran it on Chris's car for over a year, only problem we had was when one of the 044 went out. We never knew till we were making runs and the car kept going lean on Highboost. After that we installed a fuel pressure gauge, the gauge would show a higher pressure when both fuel pumps were working so we knew.
Running a pressure gauge is a good idea idea, my car has a fuel pressure gauge under the hood for now.... mainly for playing with base pressure. once everything is tuned i will get one with a remote sensor to go in the cabin. i have heard of 044s failing no doubt, but i think a consensus around most internet forums (here, supraforums, muscle car forums) is that an 044 is one of the most reliable pumps on the market. problem is there are knock offs floating around and that certainly sucks.
Originally Posted by jonty
Great Post thank you for doing this.
hopefully people find this helpful when either building their own system or buying a system.
Originally Posted by TTurbRon
Kick *** Prod! Nice work! That looks like a real nice system. This would be my next and final mod if I ever do it. Corn fed spoolbus....schweet!
thanks man. i feel like a lot of guys here skip out on a proper fuel setup. stock system definitely has quiet a few drawbacks.

Originally Posted by m3ntal
If anyone needs a wiring diagram this is what I went off of...
good stuff Binh. we wired mine a bit differently, either way works.

Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
Mark, My hands were not the only ones getting dirty.. Thank you for the kind words. I feel the most impressive part of this build is the size injector running off the 996 dme. I had huge doubts that it would start and drive. I have to say Tony is the man!
Yeah as far as I know this is the first set of 2000-2150cc (205#) injectors running on stock 996 ECU.

Most impressive part is still to come .... I think
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
There is an E85 gas station close to you Brett so your place is still on my list of approved visiting destinations
Interesting - didn't know that; good info.

Well, just watch the forecast and let me know when you want to get the show to match the go.
 
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awesome work guys , well done
but did you test it ?
 
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Interesting - didn't know that; good info.

Well, just watch the forecast and let me know when you want to get the show to match the go.
will do man. we'll try out that wax you gave me...
 
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Thats so clean
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Both cars will be going in for tuning soon.
 

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will do man. we'll try out that wax you gave me...
Nah save that for when you're on your own. I've got others.
 
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Nah save that for when you're on your own. I've got others.
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Hey I can use a good wax on some of my bikes.. Even do a DIY on it.
 
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I was very impressed with the quality of the injectors. I am getting ready to put my motor back together and the injectors are the last piece needed. I have some question. Why wont the 2150cc injectors handle oxygenated fuels? Will you have ones that will available soon? I am a fan already and more so after seeing them idle. I was running 1000cc low impedance with a resistor box out of a supra, not ideal at all. I could not get any larger injector to idle with the stock ecu your 2150 did no problem.
 
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Fantastic write up guys!!!
 
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Great write up, well done guys.
 
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Originally Posted by FIC
Hey Tim,
Thank you for the kind words!

The largest high impedance injector that can handle oxygenated fuels is our 1100cc... these are 20% larger than our 900cc offering (which some refer to as a "1000"). We do have plenty of guys running these at higher base fuel pressure to get more out of them... at 60 psi of base fuel pressure they flow nearly 1300cc just to give you an idea and that is a perfectly fine way to go with them.

We actually have the Prayoonto Racing team running these injectors at 140 psi of base fuel pressure on their 9.0 second all motor Civic to get over 1900cc of flow out of them and they're working great even at that pressure.

If you want to go bigger we do offer some larger low impedance optons that are safe for use with oxygenated fuels. We have our premium BlueMAX line of 1250cc, 1450cc, and 1650cc injectors available. As the injectors get larger they do get more finicky but all of our injectors in this range have greatly outperformed the other low impedance injectors out there.

We are always working on offering new products to our customers, but at this time we do not have anything new coming out beyond what is already available.

Here's a shot of that Prayoonto Racing Clutchmasters Civic I mentioned running our 1100cc injectors at 140 psi of base fuel pressure!
Great info. Not trying to play devils advocate here but 140psi is not really a good thing on a fuel pump or in a street car which every car here is. It does however show the durability of your product. I know based off injector size and claimed hp numbers of some cars here that they were running more fuel psi then 140psi. I am using a M880 and can use any injector I wish. Truth be told I may go the same way as Mark and M3ntal and run E85. I am sold on your product after installing and seeing a smooth idle on a remote flash base tune. First try!
 
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
Truth be told I may go the same way as Mark and M3ntal and run E85. I am sold on your product after installing and seeing a smooth idle on a remote flash base tune. First try!
That and the fact you have 7 E85 stations within 10 miles and its 3.39/gal by you !!! I have 1

We'll see what it does soon enough I guess?

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