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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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track tires?

well i'm planning to do some track events this year and wanted to know your opinions on which tire sizes to run on stock wheels? I don't want to trigger any abs, psm lights, but still would like to get the biggest tire i can fit on stock wheels without rubbing. the two sizes i was looking at were:

1. toyo's ra1s 245/40zr18 frt & 305/35zr18 rears 8/32s tread
2. nitto's nt01s 245/40zr18 frt & 315/30zr18 rears 6/32s tread
which would be the best combination?
I'm planning on driving to and from the track on these tires
as for suspension (installing jic/cross gt3 sways)

any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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either should be fine. I run the michelin Pilot Sport Cups, 235/35 315/30's
 
Old Mar 9, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tom kerr
either should be fine. I run the michelin Pilot Sport Cups, 235/35 315/30's
Tom:

Do the Michelin's take a lap to heat up? I've received mixed answers to this question, mostly (if not all) hear say from those who've never run the Cups.

I too have to make a tire decision as the current track tires are shot and are older technology! Thanks in advance.

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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Mark, absolutely!! A lap or two to get to temp and a considered drawback of an otherwise awesome tire!
I have mine heat cycled when I buy them and the Cups hold up well and take the most heat cycles. also acceptable to a point in wet conditions, not standing water.
The Toyo RA-1's are my next choice.
And when I am ***** out I go with the Hoosier R-6's.

Best track tire if you trail are the Hoosiers hands down, if you want street use sometimes or drive to the track choose from the others.
 
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Tom:

Thanks for the input. I've looked at the Toyo RA-1 as my second choice simply because the Cups take a bit to heat up.

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You need to be careful with the tire diameter differences on the all wheel drive cars. You could damage your front differential with the diameter difference between a 245/40 18 and 305/35 18.
 
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can you explan? as for the nittos nt01s they also have 225/40 , 235/40 , 245/40 for the fronts and 315/30zr18 rears as for toyos they have 245/40zr18, 225/40zr18 for the fronts and 305/35zr18 335/30zr18. which would be the best combo?

thanks any advise?
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The 245/40's and the 305/35's are 3/4 inch apart in diameter. If you want to run the 245's, the 315 is only 1/4 inch off. You will also want to consider how tall the stock tires were. The 245/40 is .7 inches greater diameter than stock, and the 305/35 is 1.5 inches greater. The Nitto 235/40's and 315/30's have an almost identical overall diameter, and they're only .4 inches taller than the stock tires.
 

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I used to run PSCS with my M3 and looked at all options for my 997S. After much consideration, it's over to PSC again in 235/295 18" sizes. Several reasons...

Wear like iron, stick like velcro, lightest weight track tire out there.

The PSC does need a lap or two to get hot, but so do the brakes. Of course you the driver needs a warm-up lap too

The RA1 and Nitto looked great, but man are they heavy. They leave performance on the table in order to wear longer (almost street tread depth - you'd need to shave to 6/10 to avoid major chunking). They are slightly better in the wet, but I run street PS2s if raining or extremely cold. So, for warm and sunny days, I want the top performer, and for me that's PSC.
 
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Has anyone tried Toyo R888?
Toyo have told me it is a higher spec than the RA-1
 
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Supposedly same compound, different tread pattern. More geared to dry pavement than the RA1, which is pretty good in the wet.
 
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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Quoted response from toyo technical support:


"Comparing the Proxes R888 & Proxes RA1, the Proxes R888 will give superior performance in dry conditions where both patterns have new tread depths.



The Proxes RA1 is designed to be used as a wet weather tyre with new tread depth, and buffed or shaved to >3mm tread depth for consistent dry track performance.

The Proxes R888 is designed primarily as a dry weather tyre."


 
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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I just did a track day on MPSC
i liked the tire but like all have stated, it needs a warm up for a few laps (i found 2-3 where necessary).

i found the rears much better than the fronts for overall grip. i didnt get the level of understeer right in the car on the day and cant help but feel the front end was lacking in grip no matter what i did with the pressures.

considering hoosiers, Nitto NT-01 or Toyo for the gt3 next.
having said that, i had P zero corsa on the 996TT and they where incredible.
they dont seem to get mentioned or rated much here?
 
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The R888 is a HUGE improvement over the RA1, I just talked to a miata guy who did some testing on the R888 for us (I work for toyo) and he shaved over a second off his lap time on his regular track.

It is geared more towards dry then the RA1. I have talked to a few of our tech guys and they say it is much louder then the RA1 (For those who plan on making it a street tire).

I should be getting my first set very soon and they will be my only tire on my GTO

FYI, the R888 is released this month with limited sized. The RA-1 will continue to be available for a long time
 
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where can i get R888 or NT-01 in 19"

they show them as available sizes on the web site but i need a dealer
 


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