Tailgating/aggressive behavior
#1
Tailgating/aggressive behavior
Okay--brief rant. I know this subject has been brought up before, but it's usually in the context of other drivers' behavior when around a 911. What I've noticed is more generalized: people tailgate and change lanes with what seems like inches to spare. I notice it when someone is on my rear, and I notice it when I'm following behind and the driver does it to someone else up ahead. And I don't have to be in the Porsche for it to happen. What strikes me as really strange, though, is the person who is often doing it. Sometimes it's the expected 25yo hothead in an Infiniti or BMW, or an aggressive guy who's clearly compensating for something, but oftentimes it's what appears to be a mild-mannered mom out on errands.
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?
#3
Washington Metro area checking in - The a$$hole drivers are everywhere.
They are in their own little world with no concern for anyone else. I really think the glass windows of a car provide some measure of anonymity so these drivers think they can act like complete jerks without repercussions. Maybe if everyone drove convertibles with the tops down all the time we'd have a more polite road experience :-).
They are in their own little world with no concern for anyone else. I really think the glass windows of a car provide some measure of anonymity so these drivers think they can act like complete jerks without repercussions. Maybe if everyone drove convertibles with the tops down all the time we'd have a more polite road experience :-).
#4
Probably a bit of both but clearly most people are clueless about the dynamics of their car or the laws of physics. It scares me how close some people come to killing themselves (or others) on a daily basis.
#6
From the NY area here and I will chime in too. I just drove to and from Canada this weekend (Ottawa), and can add one thing that I'm sure is causing a lot of this: LEFT LANE BANDITS! It's crazy here in the NY area at least. Up in Canada (and upstate but arguably there is less congestion) people are moving out of the passing lane when faster cars approach. I told my girlfriend in the car yesterday: "You know you're back in NY when...) as I started getting stuck in the fast lane below or just at the speed limit - with plenty of room for the lead car to get out of the way... This is a crazy phenomenon here and I am scratching my head asking myself why?
#7
From the NY area here and I will chime in too. I just drove to and from Canada this weekend (Ottawa), and can add one thing that I'm sure is causing a lot of this: LEFT LANE BANDITS! It's crazy here in the NY area at least. Up in Canada (and upstate but arguably there is less congestion) people are moving out of the passing lane when faster cars approach. I told my girlfriend in the car yesterday: "You know you're back in NY when...) as I started getting stuck in the fast lane below or just at the speed limit - with plenty of room for the lead car to get out of the way... This is a crazy phenomenon here and I am scratching my head asking myself why?
But some of this tailgating is different. I see it here on Long Island, on local roads like Northern Boulevard or Jericho Tpke, where the speed limit is 40mph, and traffic conditions and common sense should keep people from going significantly faster than that. Moms (and others) ride people's butts, and then slot in between two cars with inches to spare front and rear. All to get to the next stoplight 5 seconds faster.
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#8
Okay--brief rant. I know this subject has been brought up before, but it's usually in the context of other drivers' behavior when around a 911. What I've noticed is more generalized: people tailgate and change lanes with what seems like inches to spare. I notice it when someone is on my rear, and I notice it when I'm following behind and the driver does it to someone else up ahead. And I don't have to be in the Porsche for it to happen. What strikes me as really strange, though, is the person who is often doing it. Sometimes it's the expected 25yo hothead in an Infiniti or BMW, or an aggressive guy who's clearly compensating for something, but oftentimes it's what appears to be a mild-mannered mom out on errands.
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?
ChuckJ
#9
Second that. I've been around a good portion of the east coast Midwest and south, but Texas is ridiculous. I guess it's like competing which state has the fattest population. .. another thing I wont miss about this place.
#11
I may be the exception, but I have not seen too much of this, or at least not more when I am driving the 911. I live in a reasonably nice area North of Atlanta (with a lot of P-car on the streets) and spend most of my time on the road in North GA, NC, SC and East TN.
There would be the occasional Hillbilly in a big truck or the soccer mom's and teenage girls texting in their Suburbans, but I see the same behavior when I am driving my wife's Infiniti or one of the old bimmers. Just bad driving habits.
There would be the occasional Hillbilly in a big truck or the soccer mom's and teenage girls texting in their Suburbans, but I see the same behavior when I am driving my wife's Infiniti or one of the old bimmers. Just bad driving habits.
#13
Happens all the time to me as well. I noticed it when i went from my m3 to Cayman 5 years ago. Still happens in my 911. I thought it was because my cars where black, and possibility harder to see. But I get the same thing when I drive my wife's bright red cooper. People are just morons, esp in DC/NOVA area.
#14
If I'm in the Mercedes, then there's no telling what kind of stupid crap I'll do. Just last week I slowed down and started screaming at some stupid woman who was texting as she was driving (badly) down the street. One of my pet peeves (I have several).
#15
Okay--brief rant. I know this subject has been brought up before, but it's usually in the context of other drivers' behavior when around a 911. What I've noticed is more generalized: people tailgate and change lanes with what seems like inches to spare. I notice it when someone is on my rear, and I notice it when I'm following behind and the driver does it to someone else up ahead. And I don't have to be in the Porsche for it to happen. What strikes me as really strange, though, is the person who is often doing it. Sometimes it's the expected 25yo hothead in an Infiniti or BMW, or an aggressive guy who's clearly compensating for something, but oftentimes it's what appears to be a mild-mannered mom out on errands.
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?
So is it subconscious aggressive behavior on the part of these moms, feeling emboldened and empowered in their 5000-lb suits of armor, or is it simply a complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics/safe following distance/consequences of hitting someone at 70mph? Some of the things I see are unreal--all it would take would be a slight tap of the brakes by the lead car, for whatever reason, to create a devastating chain reaction.
Is it just an NYC suburbs thing?