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Old May 1, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Porsche dealer not creating DME reports?

Hello everybody!

I am in the process of buying a certified 2008 C2S. I asked the dealer for a DME report and they say they don't usually create those reports and that the car has never had a check engine light on. They also mentioned that even if they had it scanned it would just say "no faults exist".

Is this correct? I thought they had to get a DME scan as part of the CPO process...

Your comments are very much appreciatted!!

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Old May 1, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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I think you have to ask for it. The dealer I bought mine from wasn't very forthcoming with the DME report until I insisted that I'd want to see it before discussing further or I'd walk.
 
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With the new diagnostic system the dealer cannot print out the DME like they did a couple years ago on my 2007 CPO'ed purchase. Now cooperative dealers will take a picture of the screen with the pertinent info which is rev ranges and send to you. Or if you are local ask have them run it while you are present.
 
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Thank you for your comment tqevo. Was the report clean once you got it?
 
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When did they implement the new diagnostic system? I bought my car in June of last year and received a copy of the printout emailed to me.

Report was clean... nothing in the rev ranges 3+ seems to be a good indicator of health.
 
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I was told the same by a dealer that had a very nice car but I didn't believe that they couldn't do a rev report and, thinking they were being misleading or dishonest, I walked away. Had I known this is normal now, I would have at least given it more thought.
 
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Originally Posted by tqevo
When did they implement the new diagnostic system? I bought my car in June of last year and received a copy of the printout emailed to me.

Report was clean... nothing in the rev ranges 3+ seems to be a good indicator of health.
Not sure but multiple posts here and on other forums verify that it is fact that the newer diagnostic systems won't allow a printout. (search is your friend)

FWIW if you are looking at a PDK it is impossible to exceed ignitions beyond range 1.

The only usable information in a DME scan is over revs on a manual transmission car.
 
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Don't put too much emphasis on a DME/Overrev report, they don't paint the entire picture. However if you really want to see it, you can use Durametric to look at the overrevs.
 
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The dealer's DME scan would indicate if there were faults...it also displays the readout (over-revs) from Ranges 1 through 6.

When they CPO a car, they probably look at these Ranges, but don't record the values (btw, in case you don't already know this, don't let the dealer tell you that getting this done is a big deal --- it takes about 2 seconds to do the scan). I just purchased a CPO ('09 4S) and the dealer did a DME scan upon my request. When I arrived at the dealer I did my own DME scan using my Durametric cable (as NorthVan points out). Fortunately, both scans matched perfectly.
 

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Originally Posted by Mark Harris
With the new diagnostic system the dealer cannot print out the DME like they did a couple years ago on my 2007 CPO'ed purchase. Now cooperative dealers will take a picture of the screen with the pertinent info which is rev ranges and send to you. Or if you are local ask have them run it while you are present.
+1, Request it to for email.
 
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I had my ranges read in my 11 GTS. The tech said I would need to take a photo of the rev ranges. That's what I did

There were 551 in range 1 and 1 in range 2. The range 2 number seems unlikely to be a valid read. That's only a third of a revolution.
 
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If the dealer won't let you see the DME report (for whatever stupid reason they come up with), run, run as fast as you can. And make sure you do a burnout in their parking lot.
 

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Originally Posted by Alan C.
There were 551 in range 1 and 1 in range 2. The range 2 number seems unlikely to be a valid read. That's only a third of a revolution.
Could somebody explain what range 1-6 means? I am assuming range 1 is lower and range 6 would be bad.... Thanks.
 
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A 997-1 DME records the following rev ranges:
Range 1: 7300-7500 RPM
Range 2: 7500-7700 RPM
Range 3: 7700-7900 RPM
Range 4: 7900-8400 RPM
Range 5: 8400-9500 RPM
Range 6: 9500-11000 RPM
 
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Thank you all very much. I finally got the DME scans. They couldn't print out a report so they sent me pictures taken from the computer.
I will post the results right now on a different message. If you can give me feedback, I would appreciate it!
Thank you again!
 


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