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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:12 PM
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My SOP Dyno tells me...

Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Look at the trap speed, 136mph... how much do a TTS with Stage 2, Exhaust and Plenum do?
The U.S. Record quarter mile car with GIAC stage 2, IPD plenum, tubi catless race exhaust and race gas (with GIAC race gas tune subfile) did 10.265 at 132 mph. Slightly faster than a stock 650s but slower trap.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ec-qtr-mi.html

I expect with the champion intercoolers and the revised GIAC stage 2 plus tune, traps will go way up as the tune is supposed to not aggressively reduce boost and timing as it does now at high rpms.
 
Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
The U.S. Record quarter mile car with GIAC stage 2, IPD plenum, tubi catless race exhaust and race gas (with GIAC race gas tune subfile) did 10.265 at 132 mph. Slightly faster than a stock 650s but slower trap.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ec-qtr-mi.html

I expect with the champion intercoolers and the revised GIAC stage 2 plus tune, traps will go way up as the tune is supposed to not aggressively reduce boost and timing as it does now at high rpms.

132mph is low, I seen trap speeds of 130mph for a stock TTS several times
 
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
132mph is low, I seen trap speeds of 130mph for a stock TTS several times
Should just come back down and get your car tuned and take it to the drag strip again!

Give me an excuse to come back to PR!


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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by COBB Tuning
Should just come back down and get your car tuned and take it to the drag strip again!

Give me an excuse to come back to PR!


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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Look at the trap speed, 136mph... how much do a TTS with Stage 2, Exhaust and Plenum do?
Car 2 on the left is mine with the list of mods on my sig and half 93 and half 104 gas. The tires were PZeros with 8500 miles on them. Car, driver and gas were probably 3750-3800lb. That is substantially heavier than the McClaren but the car is also well modded. One thing for sure, my best 0-150 is 14.75 so the McClaren 650s would leave me in the dust higher up. I haven't run a really honest to goodness half mile but I have a vbox run that was ET of 16.8s and trap of 156 but my terminal speed was only 151 so obviously I slowed down before I finished the half mile, it was just an acceleration test and I had no distance markers where I was.
 
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
132mph is low, I seen trap speeds of 130mph for a stock TTS several times
Agreed, I think Karl was using drag radials. ET is about 60ft time, it's not about how fast the car is. I like heads up racing because it includes everything, driver reaction, 60ft time and the power of the car. I beat a CTS V which was supercharged and probably making 750hp but it trapped 140mph with the same 10.8 ET as me and I only trapped 132.8 but my reaction time beat his by .3s so I won the race. He was pulling on me the whole way though and if the race was any longer, he would have passed me easily and dusted me. However, for the quarter, my car and my driving were enough to win.
 
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Fast forward to 00:55

A stock 650s will destroy a 991 TTS from a roll, even from a dig given long enough distance.

I raced a friend's P13(641 factory HP tune) Mclaren and from 70kmh I have no chance, by the time I'm doing 245 he's already 260+

And my car is Stage 2+ with 98 Octane on both cars.

I'll add an IPD Y-pipe and re-tune with a custom tune and have a rematch.

The same Mclaren leaves a stage 2 with pulley 2015 Viper in the dust. By that I mean about 3 cars ahead. Those Mclarens are no joke from rolling speeds.

Keep in mind the 12c is exactly as fast as 650s, maybe the 650 will be a bumper ahead due to better gearing.

BUT almost everything else in the 991 TTS is better, about 3 Mclarens I know had gearbox leaks after every couple races lol.

-Hamad
 

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My SOP Dyno tells me...

Originally Posted by UAE991

Fast forward to 00:55

A stock 650s will destroy a 991 TTS from a roll, even from a dig given long enough distance.

I raced a friend's P13(641 factory HP tune) Mclaren and from 70kmh I have no chance, by the time I'm doing 245 he's already 260+

And my car is Stage 2+ with 98 Octane on both cars.

I'll add an IPD Y-pipe and re-tune with a custom tune and have a rematch.

The same Mclaren leaves a stage 2 with pulley 2015 Viper in the dust. By that I mean about 3 cars ahead. Those Mclarens are no joke from rolling speeds.

Keep in mind the 12c is exactly as fast as 650s, maybe the 650 will be a bumper ahead due to better gearing.

BUT almost everything else in the 991 TTS is better, about 3 Mclarens I know had gearbox leaks after every couple races lol.

-Hamad
There's really not much doubt about Porsche quality being dramatically better than McLaren quality and reliability. But yes they are super fast once they get going. Much faster than our cars. After I get the enhanced Champion intercooling and the upgraded GIAC Stage 2 plus tune with its approximately 600 wheel horsepower I wonder if the battle with a 650s would be different or close at higher speeds given that the revised tune is supposed to allow much more boost/timing at higher RPMs than the Stage 2/stock intercoolers tune did.
 
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Originally Posted by wrs
Car 2 on the left is mine with the list of mods on my sig and half 93 and half 104 gas. The tires were PZeros with 8500 miles on them. Car, driver and gas were probably 3750-3800lb. That is substantially heavier than the McClaren but the car is also well modded. One thing for sure, my best 0-150 is 14.75 so the McClaren 650s would leave me in the dust higher up. I haven't run a really honest to goodness half mile but I have a vbox run that was ET of 16.8s and trap of 156 but my terminal speed was only 151 so obviously I slowed down before I finished the half mile, it was just an acceleration test and I had no distance markers where I was.
Nice run... but I have a friend with a Stock TTS doing 156mph in the 1/2 mile, twice!

I believe your car can make 160+ in the 1/2 mile
 
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Originally Posted by wrs
Agreed, I think Karl was using drag radials. ET is about 60ft time, it's not about how fast the car is. I like heads up racing because it includes everything, driver reaction, 60ft time and the power of the car. I beat a CTS V which was supercharged and probably making 750hp but it trapped 140mph with the same 10.8 ET as me and I only trapped 132.8 but my reaction time beat his by .3s so I won the race. He was pulling on me the whole way though and if the race was any longer, he would have passed me easily and dusted me. However, for the quarter, my car and my driving were enough to win.
Yeap, in roll races is all about trap speeds
 
Old Sep 3, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by UAE991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3fzGjOxiPQ

Fast forward to 00:55

A stock 650s will destroy a 991 TTS from a roll, even from a dig given long enough distance.

I raced a friend's P13(641 factory HP tune) Mclaren and from 70kmh I have no chance, by the time I'm doing 245 he's already 260+

And my car is Stage 2+ with 98 Octane on both cars.

I'll add an IPD Y-pipe and re-tune with a custom tune and have a rematch.

The same Mclaren leaves a stage 2 with pulley 2015 Viper in the dust. By that I mean about 3 cars ahead. Those Mclarens are no joke from rolling speeds.

Keep in mind the 12c is exactly as fast as 650s, maybe the 650 will be a bumper ahead due to better gearing.

BUT almost everything else in the 991 TTS is better, about 3 Mclarens I know had gearbox leaks after every couple races lol.

-Hamad
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wrs
Car 2 on the left is mine with the list of mods on my sig and half 93 and half 104 gas. The tires were PZeros with 8500 miles on them. Car, driver and gas were probably 3750-3800lb. That is substantially heavier than the McClaren but the car is also well modded. One thing for sure, my best 0-150 is 14.75 so the McClaren 650s would leave me in the dust higher up. I haven't run a really honest to goodness half mile but I have a vbox run that was ET of 16.8s and trap of 156 but my terminal speed was only 151 so obviously I slowed down before I finished the half mile, it was just an acceleration test and I had no distance markers where I was.
How much WHP is your car making?
 
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Originally Posted by UAE991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3fzGjOxiPQ

Fast forward to 00:55

A stock 650s will destroy a 991 TTS from a roll, even from a dig given long enough distance.

I raced a friend's P13(641 factory HP tune) Mclaren and from 70kmh I have no chance, by the time I'm doing 245 he's already 260+

And my car is Stage 2+ with 98 Octane on both cars.

I'll add an IPD Y-pipe and re-tune with a custom tune and have a rematch.

The same Mclaren leaves a stage 2 with pulley 2015 Viper in the dust. By that I mean about 3 cars ahead. Those Mclarens are no joke from rolling speeds.

Keep in mind the 12c is exactly as fast as 650s, maybe the 650 will be a bumper ahead due to better gearing.

BUT almost everything else in the 991 TTS is better, about 3 Mclarens I know had gearbox leaks after every couple races lol.

-Hamad

By the way, our 98 octane super over here is actually 98 RON. It is equivalent to US 93 octane. Just saying.
 
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Originally Posted by UAE991
The same Mclaren leaves a stage 2 with pulley 2015 Viper in the dust. By that I mean about 3 cars ahead. Those Mclarens are no joke from rolling speeds.
-Hamad
Powershifting a viper makes all the difference in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD6B...ature=youtu.be
 

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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by v10tt
Powershifting a viper makes all the difference in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD6B...ature=youtu.be

Yeap!
 
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