2017 Turbo - to Burmester or not?

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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tssci
Thank you all...an overwhelming endorsement for checking this option block...greatly appreciate all the feedback. Likely will post another polling question on some of the suspension and headlight options available. Thanks!
Get the PDCC and don't waste your money on the headlights. Truly a waste. Yes most will disagree, those of course that spent the money. I didn't build my car and probably would have been sucked in to getting them. Same exact car, same dark road, my friends lights are no better for visibility. Sure you can have the ugly four dot DRL's but they will not be better at night.

Easy one to check out for yourself. Go to the dealer at night. Have them take the different cars out. You in one and the dealer in the other. See for yourself.
 
Old Nov 16, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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Agree on the headlights.....had the standard on my '13 C2S & now LED's.

No illumination difference on the road at night. Save yourself $2300
 
Old Nov 16, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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I've heard on here somewhere (yeah, just hearsay) that US regulations result in a situation where the LED and standard headlights have essentially the same output. Might be different elsewhere. Never bothered to verify. I'm getting them because they're standard equipment, and if they weren't I expect I would have passed on them.

I got the black ones though. I expect them to work exactly as advertised - the same thing except black and more expensive.
 
Old Nov 16, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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PDCC....more info please

Thanks guys, and yes, you've confirmed what I thought about the lighting....going standard as I did on my 50th Anniversary car. As to the PDCC another costly option and struggling there. Good input re it being a more enjoyable/comfortable ride if you have it...but wondering how NOT getting it would compare to my 50th with the sport suspension (forget exactly what that option was called) and if PDCC was an option on that car I know I did NOT get it. So, more commentary on the PDCC is most welcome...specifically given my experience and satisfaction with how my 50th behaves....or is there something unique about the Turbo set up that differ??
 
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Here is my take on PDCC. Not worth the money for how I drive my car. At most it is spirited canyon runs and no track time or AX with the car.

Having said that in my humble opinion the PDCC seems to be an option that many want so for resale I think it is worth it. If I were to keep my car forever, no PDCC. Good luck in your research.
 
Old Nov 16, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Goin2drt
Here is my take on PDCC. Not worth the money for how I drive my car. At most it is spirited canyon runs and no track time or AX with the car.

Having said that in my humble opinion the PDCC seems to be an option that many want so for resale I think it is worth it. If I were to keep my car forever, no PDCC. Good luck in your research.
My intended use is exactly the same (no canyon runs here anyway) and as the value of my cars have gone up no interest in track time or AX. As to resale, I'm a guy who does not check the box for sunroofs which most would think mandatory for resale. Don't like em, never open em...and I do prefer an uncluttered/undisturbed roof line.....sort of a 'less is more' way of looking at things. The Burmester (where I started this thread) is certainly in the more category but something I'll use and enjoy on every drive so it makes sense for me.
 
Old Nov 19, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Probably hard to find one sitting around without the B if u are ordering quite possibly could lose you the deal as its SUCH AN AMAZING system. DOnt look back.....trust me
 
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Great thread as i was searching for something like this for a while. I was always a little skeptical about the cost for an upgraded "factory" audio system but feel much better about it now. My car was just completed and is waiting the next vessel to Long Beach.
 
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Great thread as i was searching for something like this for a while. I was always a little skeptical about the cost for an upgraded "factory" audio system but feel much better about it now. My car was just completed and is waiting the next vessel to Long Beach.
It is worth the money. Some upgrade factory auto systems are ****. When I got my 2015'E63 I extensively evaluated the $5000 B and O option and it absolutely sucked. No bass at all. The base Harman Kardon was better for my kind of music.
 
Old Nov 19, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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Always fun when your car is on the Vessel!!!! Part of the excitement of P car ownership!!! Pins and Needles.....giddy up!!
 
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Originally Posted by tommyboy214
I have the Bose and its not great...I would get the Burmester
+1. Wish I didnt have the bose
 
Old Nov 19, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I got the Mark Levinson in my wifes Lexus...I have the Burmester in my TTs and I have the Harmon Kardon in my Merc ML63...I'd say HK for the win..I don't know if it's because of a larger listening area but it's certainly no slouch...and for the Mark Levinson..they best stick to ultra high end home gear..The Burmester is good...not great..I find myself constantly adjusting the set up never finding a day to day sweet spot..and the thing that irks me the most about it is it seems to change balance volume with different volume settings...set low it has a right front bias and if I adjust to even it out when I up the volume it becomes a left front bias..don't know if that's normal or an issue but I can say if you want to set up for a particular source (Cd/DVD say) and track it can sound VERY GOOD but change the file source and a reset is again needed..just my .02
 
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Burmester is a must. I have the Burmester in my Cayenne and love it. But I figured I could probably live with the Bose in a 911. It only took me 2 seconds of driving a 991 with Bose to hear how terrible it is. It became a deal breaker after that.


PDCC is awesome as well. I don't have it in my Cayenne and never noticed. but after driving the 991 with it, I wish I had it in the Cayenne as well. it adds so much stability. but I drive all my cars like I stole them on and off the track. if you drive like a grandma, you probably won't care.


LED headlights are really nice with the auto-bright function. again, I don't have them in the Cayenne and after experiencing it in the 991, it's worth it. but if you don't know what you're missing, you won't miss it.
 
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Never heard the Bose, but love my Burmester.
As for PDCC, I never turn it off. But my motto is, NO LAW AGAINST GETTING TO THE SPEED LIMIT ASAP
 
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Never heard the Bose, but love my Burmester.
As for PDCC, I never turn it off. But my motto is, NO LAW AGAINST GETTING TO THE SPEED LIMIT ASAP
Living here in the New York area with our crappy roads it's usually off. If I want to do some performance driving on twisty roads I turn it on.
 


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