IL tested 12' PDK vs manual
#1
02-01-2012, 01:06 PM
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IL tested 12' PDK vs manual
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ed-manual.html
Pretty big performance difference right there, but still would choose the manual. I don't know what options they had but that PDK car ran over 126k and wasn't even a Cab
Pretty big performance difference right there, but still would choose the manual. I don't know what options they had but that PDK car ran over 126k and wasn't even a Cab
#2
02-01-2012, 01:42 PM
Manual PDK
0-30 (sec.): 1.9 1.5
0-45 (sec.): 3.0 2.6
0-60 (sec.): 4.6 3.9
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec.): 4.4 3.7
0-75 (sec.): 6.3 5.5
1/4-mile (sec @ mph): 12.7 @ 113.2 12.0 @ 116.5
0-30 (sec.): 1.9 1.5
0-45 (sec.): 3.0 2.6
0-60 (sec.): 4.6 3.9
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec.): 4.4 3.7
0-75 (sec.): 6.3 5.5
1/4-mile (sec @ mph): 12.7 @ 113.2 12.0 @ 116.5
Total time from 45-75 was 3.3 for the manual, 2.9 seconds for PDK.
Anyone know the gear ratios for the 7speed manual? 1 or 2 shifts to 75?
Last edited by bbywu; 02-01-2012 at 01:47 PM.
#3
02-01-2012, 01:44 PM
Manual for me too. Electronically managed launched effectiveness is clear in the 0-30 time. Obviously, instant shifts also help the times. But, in-gear thrust will be basically the same, and I would never do a max-attack launch in my own car anyway. I respect the PDK, but I have no interest in owning one -- manual for me.
#4
02-01-2012, 04:30 PM
Love the PDK technology but frankly it just gets boring and really lacks the entire engine engagement (feathering etc.). Its just so much more fun to drive and I would happily give up speedy launches as I rarely use all the power of the S as it currently stands.
#5
02-01-2012, 04:58 PM
Their both great (although I haven't driven the 991 manual yet)! But I've had 14 Porsches now, over 46 years and all but the last one has been manual. I tried a tip way back and rejected it, and then I tried one in 2007 and rejected it also. When I tried the 2009 PDK I got it and my two 40-something sons said they were going to disown me- until they drove it. I've really enjoyed driving it and my short test drive with the improved one in the 991 is even better. It’s a little embracing that after 40+ years of practice matching RPMs during downshifting the PDK not only does it more accurately, it does it in a fraction of the time.
Driving a PDK does fell a little like an electronic game, but it doesn't lose that tactile feel for some reason like simulators do. Now that the 991 has slightly more engine noise and a lot less road noise and playing with the PDK is really is sensual.
ChuckJ
Driving a PDK does fell a little like an electronic game, but it doesn't lose that tactile feel for some reason like simulators do. Now that the 991 has slightly more engine noise and a lot less road noise and playing with the PDK is really is sensual.
ChuckJ
#6
02-01-2012, 05:53 PM
If I were going to spend any time at the track, I would pick the PDK as it has been proven to be much faster in that environment. However, my 997 and soon to be 991, is my daily driver and I quite enjoy the manual gearbox. Just not ready to give it up just yet....
#7
02-01-2012, 07:21 PM
I don't care how much faster the PDK is at 'full launch', I can't imagine any minimal PDK fun factor that would obviate the manual's visceral connection to the car.
I'll have to drive a PDK in the near future, since the 7 speed will not be available. Perhaps I can be persuaded. But, I doubt it.
The C2S is pretty fast for only 400 ponies. I'm surprised.
I'll have to drive a PDK in the near future, since the 7 speed will not be available. Perhaps I can be persuaded. But, I doubt it.
The C2S is pretty fast for only 400 ponies. I'm surprised.
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#11
02-02-2012, 07:56 AM
I was surprised they didn't note the one difference that I find the most helpful in the real world; typical pdk: 30-50mph 2.4sec, 50-70mph 2.8sec. 6sp: 30-50mph 7.2sec, 50-70mph 6.7sec.
Notes from C&D test notes on '09 997s. A '10 997tt w/ pdk: 30-50mph 1.8sec, 50-70mph 2.2sec.
We'll all occasionally run 0-60 but everyday behind the wheel the opportunity for traffic bound speed makes the pdk unique.
Notes from C&D test notes on '09 997s. A '10 997tt w/ pdk: 30-50mph 1.8sec, 50-70mph 2.2sec.
We'll all occasionally run 0-60 but everyday behind the wheel the opportunity for traffic bound speed makes the pdk unique.
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