I'm with you WRT the exhaust noise and I'm a fan of the 991 induction noise. It reminds me of when we used to take the air cleaners off when we went to the slalom track back in '67.

ChuckJ

 

It's the usual objective vs subjective question. Since we're not racing these cars, I think subjective is what matters most. But one problem is that the car mags/reviewers keep making these comparisons of objective parameters (0-60, etc.), so manufacturers are pressured to keep improving those numbers in order to compete. This stuff really makes me appreciate the simple purity of the Cayman R.

 

you bring up an interesting point...as I recall but haven't checked a second time; Chris Harris's Excellence review talks of the 991 going in a cayman like direction.

I think in the past that have been taken as a negative (see any 911 vs cayman buying decision thread), but the cayman is so well respected now that it is now a positive.

 

I like the fuss my 997.2 makes off the line LOL. I feel plugged into the car. That, and with the top down and SE on I find myself rarely having the radio going. Therapy's <my cars name> growl beats any radio tune by leaps and bounds

 

I recall reading that too. I still think the 911 (997) is more engaging than the Cayman at sane speeds, but the Cayman platform is definitely very competent, and IMO the Cayman R particularly has a special appeal because of it's 'connected' feel (eg, feels light, and really nice throttle sensitivity in sport setting).

Tommorow morning, I plan to drive the 991, so that should answer some questions. Even if I love it, waiting for a GT3 version may make sense, given that we haven't had the 911 and CR that long. Plus, there will still be the question of what the 7MT is like.

 

I'm just picturing what the GT3/2/RS versions will cost now

 

I should have been clearer and said the objective performance numbers are better than the previous models.

 

Brother, I'm 44 and I LOVE the stiffer, sports car "feel" of a traditional 911. IMHO, that's what defines the 911!!

 

In this context...no doubt

 

Agreed, the 991 is not really a 911 anymore.. Its a new bread of luxury sports car, it looks like a 911 and performs like a 911 but it doesn't feel like a 911...

 

When I drove the 991 I didn't notice the softer ride over the 997. What about you guys - Trunkmonkey? Abdon? Let us know your test drive thoughts.

To me the noise insulation is what people are mistaking as a softer ride. To me it was flat, stable, and agile.

Remember the sports(+) button.

 

Not to mention its lighter than the outgoing 997...I love the 991.

 

lol, always the same old complaints when a new 911 comes out.

 

Correct me if im wrong, but my understanding is that the 991 is longer in wheelbase by 100mm, not in total body length. It looks longer because of the windshield base (angle) being moved forward and the car being shorter. This is how they achieved the 25mm of extra leg room in the cabin.
PS, I finally saw one in person the other day....Gorgeous!!!

 

exactly, the wheelbase has grown by 3.9 in but the overall length only by 2.2 in.
they also lowered the roof, so the 991 appears much longer than the previous 911, but it isn`t.