Pics! My DBM with Spasm!
Beautiful and thanks! I really can't tell it is lowered. Need to compare it with a non-SPASM.
Edit: Oops spoke too soon before seeing the next post. However, it's still hard to tell with the smaller pics. I can tell a bit, but it's not a huge difference, which is good since I wouldn't want to be scraping the ground when getting out of a drive way.
Edit: Oops spoke too soon before seeing the next post. However, it's still hard to tell with the smaller pics. I can tell a bit, but it's not a huge difference, which is good since I wouldn't want to be scraping the ground when getting out of a drive way.
Last edited by No.92; Feb 20, 2012 at 07:44 PM.
While I understand what Dreamer is trying to say, my own opinion is that you have to set a budget (which might very well be unlimited) and pick your options to fit that budget based upon your personal priorities. Nobody's right, and nobody's wrong. That's the nice thing about a 911. You can spend $80,000 and get a great car or you can spend double that and get a great car.
I've built a $118,000 S Cab. It's perfect for me, but it might fall short for others. I'm just waiting for my wife to give me the okay to order it.
That being said, your car looks fantastic! Thanks for the pics.
I've built a $118,000 S Cab. It's perfect for me, but it might fall short for others. I'm just waiting for my wife to give me the okay to order it.

That being said, your car looks fantastic! Thanks for the pics.
This is how cadillac and ferrari do it - but I don't think porsche uses that principle of electromagnetic fluid in this application. I originally thought they did. I believe the fluid characteristics are static and the motors have oblong cams that enlarge or reduce the space where the fluid is held, thus dampening or firming the ride. Or at least this is what I gathered from the Porsche technical spec.
[QUOTE=tgcrun;3462473]While I understand what Dreamer is trying to say
I'm over it. Life is too short. It just rubbed me the wrong way when Dreamer asked if I knew what a ruler was. That's not what this forum is about. It's ok to disagree and have different views but you don't insult a fellow enthusiast.
I'm over it. Life is too short. It just rubbed me the wrong way when Dreamer asked if I knew what a ruler was. That's not what this forum is about. It's ok to disagree and have different views but you don't insult a fellow enthusiast.
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It wasn't meant as an insult in any way, and I believe I allready apologized. Writing text online can be misconstrued and it sure is interesting to see who jumps all over another persons opinion. I only meant that when I looked at the list of options, I could not bring myself to consider a 5mm (or 10mm all together, as someone else was so kind to point out) spacers as worth while. Come on! 5mm!
And to the fine gentleman who jumped all over me for my post, EricP I believe, I can appreciate that you are obviously the highest level of Porsche enthusiast and that you are correct in insinuating that I am not on the same level as you, or some others here in this forum, but did my post really require your level of backlash?
I guess I'll go jump off a bridge now...anyone want an improperly ordered 2012 991, I wont be needing it.
While I understand what Dreamer is trying to say
I'm over it. Life is too short. It just rubbed me the wrong way when Dreamer asked if I knew what a ruler was. That's not what this forum is about. It's ok to disagree and have different views but you don't insult a fellow enthusiast.
I'm over it. Life is too short. It just rubbed me the wrong way when Dreamer asked if I knew what a ruler was. That's not what this forum is about. It's ok to disagree and have different views but you don't insult a fellow enthusiast.
And to the fine gentleman who jumped all over me for my post, EricP I believe, I can appreciate that you are obviously the highest level of Porsche enthusiast and that you are correct in insinuating that I am not on the same level as you, or some others here in this forum, but did my post really require your level of backlash?
I guess I'll go jump off a bridge now...anyone want an improperly ordered 2012 991, I wont be needing it.
Glad to know someone "has my back!" Thanks Eric.
I'm sure Mr Dreamer can go find lots of other threads to go chime in on. He probably hates the fact that the folks here on 6speed lower their cars, or buy lighter wheels, are not able to get the full benefit of the changes they have made! Since he buys a Porsche just to go back and forth to work, why not just buy some ordinary car for that purpose since he won't be utilizing the full potential of a Porsche. I'm sure his "customized" Harley is very well thought out and practical
I'm sure Mr Dreamer can go find lots of other threads to go chime in on. He probably hates the fact that the folks here on 6speed lower their cars, or buy lighter wheels, are not able to get the full benefit of the changes they have made! Since he buys a Porsche just to go back and forth to work, why not just buy some ordinary car for that purpose since he won't be utilizing the full potential of a Porsche. I'm sure his "customized" Harley is very well thought out and practical

I didnt put a blower or nitros on my Harley, but I did give it a wild paint job, raised handlebars, better pipes, air cleaner, dyno tune, power commander chip, etc so it will run very nicely and has the power I need to pass trucks and get out of trouble on the road.
Anyways...I said it once before...I apologize for any offense. Your car is spectacular and it makes me drool about my own order, but I went for MT, so I have to wait. I couldn't afford, nor do I want PDK.
Whew! I thought all was lost.
on with the Porsche chatter.....
In the simplistic world view where I live (not a bad place to be at times), i think the altering suspensions/mounts can be summed up as
Dynamic engine mounts - magnetic fluid
PASM - closing of valves to lessen squishiness (in addition to "traditional" benefits of lowering and stiffening (in the case of PASM Sport))
PDCC - stiffening up of roll bar dampers via hydraulic pressure (on-demand, constantly changing)
I am sure I will be corrected if off base.
On the spacers -- from a performance standpoint, is there a benefit to the wider track if the suspension and everything else is not also moved out?
Dynamic engine mounts - magnetic fluid
PASM - closing of valves to lessen squishiness (in addition to "traditional" benefits of lowering and stiffening (in the case of PASM Sport))
PDCC - stiffening up of roll bar dampers via hydraulic pressure (on-demand, constantly changing)
I am sure I will be corrected if off base.

On the spacers -- from a performance standpoint, is there a benefit to the wider track if the suspension and everything else is not also moved out?
Last edited by fbroen; Feb 21, 2012 at 07:05 AM.
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You hopped into a forum and directed doubtful commentary at a guy who just bought a brand new car and is very proud of the way he spent his money on extras. I know the guy and heck yes you got my backlash. You may have just meant that you prefer to spend you money other ways - but when you say you don't understand why guys spend money on such minuscule options that he'll never benefit from, it's offensive and lacks tact. You have since clarified and made peace with him.
FYI - Don't tell you wife you find her expenditures at the salon to be futile. And don't tell another porsche owner you can't figure out why he bought a specific color or wheel.
Nothing was personal - it was directed at your lack of compassion. You have clarified what you meant - I was qualifying my approach in a previous post since you ended your last post with my name. . Let's move on.
And to the fine gentleman who jumped all over me for my post, EricP I believe, I can appreciate that you are obviously the highest level of Porsche enthusiast and that you are correct in insinuating that I am not on the same level as you, or some others here in this forum, but did my post really require your level of backlash?
I guess I'll go jump off a bridge now...anyone want an improperly ordered 2012 991, I wont be needing it.
I guess I'll go jump off a bridge now...anyone want an improperly ordered 2012 991, I wont be needing it.
FYI - Don't tell you wife you find her expenditures at the salon to be futile. And don't tell another porsche owner you can't figure out why he bought a specific color or wheel.
Nothing was personal - it was directed at your lack of compassion. You have clarified what you meant - I was qualifying my approach in a previous post since you ended your last post with my name. . Let's move on.
Last edited by EricP; Feb 21, 2012 at 08:08 AM.
This is how cadillac and ferrari do it - but I don't think porsche uses that principle of electromagnetic fluid in this application. I originally thought they did. I believe the fluid characteristics are static and the motors have oblong cams that enlarge or reduce the space where the fluid is held, thus dampening or firming the ride. Or at least this is what I gathered from the Porsche technical spec.
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