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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Child seat in 991

Just a heads up. The 991 does not allow the front passenger airbag to be disabled. The only option for child car seat (front or rear facing) is in the rear. With LATCH it will be much easier but rear facing is still going to be an issue. I was planning on having the LATCH installed on the front pass seat. Like you can do on the 997. With an airbag disabling switch. I just found out that you cannot do this in a 991. The issue is that the new guidelines have kids up to the age of 2 in a rear facing. I am sure the physical strength and agility to put a 1 to 2 yo kid in a rear facing child seat in the back of a 911 will far exceed me.

This was really only an emergency use only but will make it even more difficult.
 
Response from PCNA: , PAG stated:"955.044.802.93 is not needed
for the installation of a child car seat. It is just a spare part for ISOFIX".
Basically tethers for the LATCH system should be with the child seat and the
anchor points are displayed in the Owner’s Manual. The passenger side airbag can
no longer be deactivated therefore the child seat must installed in the rear
seat in accordance with the owner’s manual. Regards
 
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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As a parent of a 17 month old let me be the first to say there's no way in God's green earth I could get my kid into a rear facing seat in the back of the 991. Aint gonna happen. The new model's rear seat is much more accomodating for child seats in general but today's safer car seats are so stinkin' big that the rear facing models often struggle to fit in much larger cars (witness a recent InsideLine.com posting about just squeezing a rear facing seat in the back of a new Explorer).
 
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Buy a Cab and it will be much easier to get a child in a rear facing seat in the rear seat.
 
Old Apr 11, 2012 | 01:07 AM
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Was it possible for rear facing in the rear seats in a 997 cab?
 
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Buy a Cab and it will be much easier to get a child in a rear facing seat in the rear seat.
From the looks of it seemed like there was little to no room for a front passenger. One of the reasons I might get the 4 door sedan before the Cab. I don't want to always be driving the Cayenne everytime we go somewhere with new guy - only 10 weeks to go June 16th .
 
Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dharn55
Buy a Cab and it will be much easier to get a child in a rear facing seat in the rear seat.
Respectfully... the cab option will help you get a child into the seat but it's not really going to help you get a rear facing seat into the P car.

Unless you're willing to move the front passenger seat all the way up and probably tilt the seat back forward you're just not getting any of today's modern, safe, rear facing child seats in the back of a 911.

As I noted before, InsideLine just squeezed one of the sleeker rear facing models in the back of a new Explorer and there's a bazillion times more space in the back seat of an Explorer than there is in a 911.

You're golden once your child is two and you can turn him/her around (or if you're willing to disregard the recommendations (maybe now law in some states) and turn your child around early). Until then the age 1-2 options for putting a child safely in the back of a 911 are almost non existent.
 
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I put my Britax Marathon in the rear seat (rear-facing) of the 991. It fits. Works well with LATCH. The front passenger seat needs to be way up. This is an emergency only plan and no one would be in the front pass seat. The pain would be getting the little guy into the seat without throwing out my back. Cab could be helpful but the rear seatback is going to be more upright. Anyone know how to remove the rearseat back in a 991?

I will try to get a picture in the next day or so.

Agreed on the recommendation for rear-facing up to two years. The actual recommendation is rear-facing as long as possible. The thought is that their heads are some much larger in proportion to their necks. This is not something I plan on skimping on.

Maybe someone should develop a helmet and HANs for kids.
 
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Recaro Vivo does not fit in the rear seat of the new 991. I bought a Harmony for $20 and it works great. Fits all the way back and belt is perfect positions on my 4yo. Ordered a Recaro Vivo because I thought it would be great to have the extra side protection. Will not slide all the way to the back of the seat. The seat narrows so much that the Vivo is off the back of the seat by 2-3 inches. The new 991 rear seats mau have LATCH but they seem to be more narrow than the 997.

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Went to the dealer today with a set of car seats (Cybex, Graco, Radian, etc.), all boosters or "combination" seats and *none* fit in the back. Today's child seats are way too wide. The closest was the Radian (older model, 13.5" wide at the base, 15+ at the widest point halfway up the backrest), which kind of fit, but also was off the back of the 991 seat by about 2". Ended up ordering two
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Only thing missing now is a forward-facing seat, ideally with a 5-point harness for a 3.5 year old. Recommendations, anyone?
 
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I use the Harmony booster. It fits perfectly. Puts the seatbelt on my 4yo in the perfect spot.
Britax Marathon does fit for forward facing. The seat back keeps it out a little far but it is stable. Would be great if you could figure out how to remove the rear seat back. This would allow the seat to move farther back. It does make the front passenger seat completely unusable.
 
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Something changed in airbag technology in the last few years. None of the new cars have an airbag disable switch available (at least in the US). I know a Cybex Aton infant seat fits in the back of a 991. I didn't try any convertible seats, but since they're all bigger I doubt any of them would fit.
 
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Originally Posted by 998M
I use the Harmony booster. It fits perfectly. Puts the seatbelt on my 4yo in the perfect spot.
Britax Marathon does fit for forward facing. The seat back keeps it out a little far but it is stable. Would be great if you could figure out how to remove the rear seat back. This would allow the seat to move farther back. It does make the front passenger seat completely unusable.
Yeah. We have the Marathon in a Honda Odyssey and it's ginormous. I am really looking to find a harness seat that is slim & slender...
 
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Originally Posted by 998M
I use the Harmony booster. It fits perfectly. [...]
Are you referring to the Youth Booster, the Cruz Youth Booster, or the Olympian Booster?
 
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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Are you referring to the Youth Booster, the Cruz Youth Booster, or the Olympian Booster?
Sorry, did not realize there was more than one. It is the Cruz Youth Booster. Even says right on the box that it is designed for modern car bucket seats.
 
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I also tried out the Harmony booster. Although it fits perfectly, I found two issues with it:
1. The handles on the side cover the seat-belt latch.
2. The harmony rises quite a bit, which is normally great, but in this case my kids heads were over the seats back.

After trying multiple others, I like the Cosco No Back Booster (http://www.target.com/p/Cosco-No-Bac..._qi_detaillink) from Target the most.
 
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