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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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1 May 2012 AutoZine Review

For those who haven't seen it, this review is thorough and thoughtful.
http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Pors...1_Carrera.html

It includes both the C2 and the C2S and has an interesting review of the steering. And I think it's the first time I've seen the Magnesium dash mount described.

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"The steering feedback is useless"...but they don't explain why?

Great car....Great review...sounds like all the others.
 
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Originally Posted by buckwheat986
"The steering feedback is useless"...but they don't explain why?

Great car....Great review...sounds like all the others.
I thought they were saying that when you are going straight, you don't need any shaking of the wheel and that it had great feel in the corners. That really makes sense as the electrics are only used when turning.

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Thank you for the post...very encouraging to know the $100k plus is going towards the worlds best!!!
 
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Great review! Not the standard Porsche sound bites. Explains why features are better. Thanks for heads up.
 
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Thank you for passing along. I enjoyed another review with some depth.

Straight ahead steering feedback explanation seemed to make sense to me.
 
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Interesting quote:

"Hardcore drivers prefer those kickbacks and vibration in the helm to let them feel "engaged". However, such information is actually useless."

By that very same logic, the same exact thing can be said about MT.

I disagree on both issues. They both serve a purpose in a sense that it engages some drivers emotionally. That counts for something in some people's books.
 
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Originally Posted by Inglorious
Interesting quote:

"Hardcore drivers prefer those kickbacks and vibration in the helm to let them feel "engaged". However, such information is actually useless."

By that very same logic, the same exact thing can be said about MT.

I disagree on both issues. They both serve a purpose in a sense that it engages some drivers emotionally. That counts for something in some people's books.
Good points, I agree with you. Otherwise, I think the review is quite good and I agree with almost all of it.

Overall, it's an outstanding car, but I'm still not compelled to trade my 997 for one in any hurry. Though the 991 is more comfortable and faster, the 997 is plenty comfortable and fast for me (too fast to get near its limits on public roads), and I like the more traditional 911 feel of the 997, viz:
"Speaking of sports car dynamics, the 991 chassis has really lifted the game. Drive as hard as you can on B-roads, you will find it corners more like a mid-engined machine. It shows beautiful poise in cornering. Brake dive and squat under all-out acceleration are significantly reduced. Even though it still displays more vertical movements than the best balanced sports cars, those movements rarely hurt its steering or stability. You can carry huge speed into corners, abandoning the old-school "slow in, fast out" technique that older generations 911 drivers recommended, because the nose of 991 resists understeer so much better."
 
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Good points, I agree with you. Otherwise, I think the review is quite good and I agree with almost all of it.

Overall, it's an outstanding car, but I'm still not compelled to trade my 997 for one in any hurry. Though the 991 is more comfortable and faster, the 997 is plenty comfortable and fast for me (too fast to get near its limits on public roads), and I like the more traditional 911 feel of the 997, viz:
"Speaking of sports car dynamics, the 991 chassis has really lifted the game. Drive as hard as you can on B-roads, you will find it corners more like a mid-engined machine. It shows beautiful poise in cornering. Brake dive and squat under all-out acceleration are significantly reduced. Even though it still displays more vertical movements than the best balanced sports cars, those movements rarely hurt its steering or stability. You can carry huge speed into corners, abandoning the old-school "slow in, fast out" technique that older generations 911 drivers recommended, because the nose of 991 resists understeer so much better."
Good point. I don't know how I missed it.

More and more journalists are pointing out what we've been saying since day one.
 
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