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On that note, I think we should go back to talking about the colors, the leather, all the little over-price options ; D. Not to mention the confusing option list, positive and negative experience with the car, problems area, and all the great pictures etc, etc. It is a big world, so all our deal are going to be different for various reasons. Lets all try to get along. ; D
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I'm a couple weeks away from pulling the trigger on a fully loaded C2S and I'm trying to figure out what kind of discount I need to look for.. I'm planning todo European Delivery and looking for a dealer in the SF Bay Area (in/between San Francisco - Monterey). If anyone has a (good) experience with a dealership in this area please PM me. Greatly appreciated!!
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I'm a couple weeks away from pulling the trigger on a fully loaded C2S and I'm trying to figure out what kind of discount I need to look for.. I'm planning todo European Delivery and looking for a dealer in the SF Bay Area (in/between San Francisco - Monterey). If anyone has a (good) experience with a dealership in this area please PM me. Greatly appreciated!!
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np, I just sent, not sure what happen to the first note... all these 991 pics are really throwing me off ; D. Let me know if you get it, or need any other info about the dealer
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I've seen you get hammered for stating these "facts" previously.
Didn't want to get involved however since you keep repeating it, let me respectfull add my 2 cents.
Yours is a typical newbie perception... (and although you are correct) it primarily applies to manufactures whom have higher volumes.
I get at least 7% to 12% off my Benz's (brand new models) but Porsche does NOT have their type of volume so even though P. has THE highest profit margin per unit (in the entire industry) they do less than 10% of Benz's volume...
Now add to this that Porsche AG has announced that they will be reducing their production numbers for next year...
So when a dealer knows he'll have a 100 (991) allocations that year that's more or less the number he's going to base his service and parts revenue on and since he won't be increasing this number (unless he gets a few 991's from outside purchases) he'll try to get the most out of the sales side of it.
Should it be necessary to discount so they only make 1% on sales than they will wait 'till it becomes "left over stock".
As long as there are waiting lists, relatively low supply and more customers than cars... those HUGE discounts are far and few between.
Bottom line, Porsche... like Ferrari, Maserati, Aston Martin, Lambo etc. are not know as cars that you can get a deal on... especially brand new!
This (plus higher price point) is what keeps them exclusive and desirable when sold used (for a fraction of the new $$).
We'll see what happens now that Volkswagen has officially taken over but I don't think "Porsche" will ever be a synonym for "discount".
Didn't want to get involved however since you keep repeating it, let me respectfull add my 2 cents.
Yours is a typical newbie perception... (and although you are correct) it primarily applies to manufactures whom have higher volumes.
I get at least 7% to 12% off my Benz's (brand new models) but Porsche does NOT have their type of volume so even though P. has THE highest profit margin per unit (in the entire industry) they do less than 10% of Benz's volume...
Now add to this that Porsche AG has announced that they will be reducing their production numbers for next year...
So when a dealer knows he'll have a 100 (991) allocations that year that's more or less the number he's going to base his service and parts revenue on and since he won't be increasing this number (unless he gets a few 991's from outside purchases) he'll try to get the most out of the sales side of it.
Should it be necessary to discount so they only make 1% on sales than they will wait 'till it becomes "left over stock".
As long as there are waiting lists, relatively low supply and more customers than cars... those HUGE discounts are far and few between.
Bottom line, Porsche... like Ferrari, Maserati, Aston Martin, Lambo etc. are not know as cars that you can get a deal on... especially brand new!
This (plus higher price point) is what keeps them exclusive and desirable when sold used (for a fraction of the new $$).
We'll see what happens now that Volkswagen has officially taken over but I don't think "Porsche" will ever be a synonym for "discount".
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Although not inclined to post to internet forums and hesitant to respond to this particular thread due to some harsh back and forths by some posters, I do think it is important for people to know what the market looks like in terms of price as they shop for a new car. Some people that are very wealthy might not care about getting the best price possible. But, some people, like me, stretch to make a purchase like this and every dollar counts (a bigger discount will pay for my first set of replacement tires, oil changes, etc). I was initially told when I first started looking that "we do not discount" our cars like other car companies. Fortunately, I didn't buy that line and continued to look before finally buying at a good price.
I assume disounting varies greatly from market to market. However, from personal experience in shopping around the southeast and making a 2013 purchase, discounts of up to 8% on brand new 2013's (regardless of options or style) are definitely to be had. For those of you that are interested, shop around by internet and phone with the various dealers in the southeast. I won't be more specific as I am a private person and do not want to identify myself with exact dealerships, pictures of my car, etc. If you are willing to shop around, want the best price possible and negotiation is something you enjoy, then shop around the southeast markets and you are sure to get a good price on a new car.
Thanks for all the good info from all.
Back to lurking.
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I'm just starting my shopping. Can someone please kindly post or PM me the discount range in Canada I should be expecting before I walk into the sharks tank? From what I've read in this thread we're looking at only 5% on an already rip off exchange rate. Also any idea on Porsche Canada finance rate? I'm torn between financing or just pay it all out and get it all out of the way. Obviously the rate will be the deciding factor.
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Im in the same boat too, waiting to see in person before placing an order. Anyone buy from the North Scottsdale dealer, from my BMW experience there, Im anticipating, "we do not discount our cars".
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I can't speak for Canada, but I just put in my order yesterday and in the Ohio and PA region I was offered 7% of a new build. So I took advantage of that and put in my order. They did ask that I take a winter delivery as it's their slow season. If I had waited till spring to take my delivery I might not have been able to keep the 7%.
