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Old May 15, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Why is Porsche and 911 pricing all screwed up?

Why why!!!!



Why is Porsche pricing all screwed up? Take these for example:

1) On the Turbo, all the Metallic colors cost 0 extra. On the S, its $710 more.

2) If you fully price out an S with similar options than the GT3, the price is pretty close, but the GT3 has a lot more HP..so why get the S unless back seats are your fancy.

3) If you fully price out an S with options already on the Turbo, (like PDK), price is lower by about 15k, but the Turbo has a lot more HP

4) Why in the S does the "Window trim in high gloss Aluminum" cost $395 when it is standard on the Cayenne, but the Cayenne cost money for the black trim which the 911 has standard.

5) Why does the front/rear park assist in the 991 S cost $990 but the park assist in the new Turbo cost $380

I bet I can find 100 more oddities...
 
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Because they can and will still sell every cars.
 
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I thought you were serious about some major pricing messed ups. Those questions you ask happens to every single car, every single car brand.
You can almost get a M5 for the price of a fully loaded 550. Same thing!
 
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Because they can and will still sell every cars.
+1, Porsche knows not everyone is going to check every box. And for those who do are willing to pay for it.
 
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+1, Porsche knows not everyone is going to check every box. And for those who do are willing to pay for it.
I was trying to figure out German logic, but I guess I can't

Why the diff in the Park Assist...don't they need to do the same thing for installation and parts...

$990 vs. $380....come on...
 
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Originally Posted by yxc145:3849018
I thought you were serious about some major pricing messed ups. Those questions you ask happens to every single car, every single car brand.
You can almost get a M5 for the price of a fully loaded 550. Same thing!
I don't think he was comparing a loaded S with a base GT3 or turbo, rather comparing the same options and realized different costs for the same option on different models.

I wanted a base 991 loaded with as many sport options as I care for, only to find out the price of such loaded base 991 is just about $6k less than an equally equipped S. That is because many sport options on the base are included on the S. Now that is what you are talking about.

So for me at least, I am only paying $6k extra in exchange for a bigger engine, bigger brakes, and a few other minor items, not nearly as much as the difference between the base MSRPs of the two models.
 
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Originally Posted by frank69m
Why why!!!!



Why is Porsche pricing all screwed up? Take these for example:

1) On the Turbo, all the Metallic colors cost 0 extra. On the S, its $710 more.

2) If you fully price out an S with similar options than the GT3, the price is pretty close, but the GT3 has a lot more HP..so why get the S unless back seats are your fancy.

3) If you fully price out an S with options already on the Turbo, (like PDK), price is lower by about 15k, but the Turbo has a lot more HP

4) Why in the S does the "Window trim in high gloss Aluminum" cost $395 when it is standard on the Cayenne, but the Cayenne cost money for the black trim which the 911 has standard.

5) Why does the front/rear park assist in the 991 S cost $990 but the park assist in the new Turbo cost $380

I bet I can find 100 more oddities...

There is a really good reason...because they can.
 
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I don't think he was comparing a loaded S with a base GT3 or turbo, rather comparing the same options and realized different costs for the same option on different models.

I wanted a base 991 loaded with as many sport options as I care for, only to find out the price of such loaded base 991 is just about $6k less than an equally equipped S. That is because many sport options on the base are included on the S. Now that is what you are talking about.

So for me at least, I am only paying $6k extra in exchange for a bigger engine, bigger brakes, and a few other minor items, not nearly as much as the difference between the base MSRPs of the two models.
Actually, it is pretty similar. For instance. When I bought my 2008 C350 Mercedes, it has many options that C300 can opt to purchase. But my C350 turned out to be about the same as a C300 with similar options.
All Car makers do the same thing. May not be the exactly the same, but all very similar.

But the only thing I do find strange is the Park assist. that's a big difference.
 

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All Car makers do the same thing. May not be the exactly the same, but all very similar.
Yeah, but last I checked the wheel prices were different among the models. The wheels on a standard Carrera were almost twice than the same for an S. I understand some models will have items as standard or not at all with others, but the price differences are crazy for the same thing.
 
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Hey, at least floor mats are now included!
 
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Hey, at least floor mats are now included!
Even if they're paper thin, and wear out quickly .
 
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Originally Posted by yxc145
Actually, it is pretty similar. For instance. When I bought my 2008 C350 Mercedes, it has many options that C300 can opt to purchase. But my C350 turned out to be about the same as a C300 with similar options.
All Car makers do the same thing. May not be the exactly the same, but all very similar.

But the only thing I do find strange is the Park assist. that's a big difference.
You are right about the OP's 1-3 points, I was more thinking about his 4-5 points, and the other post about the wheel options falls in the 4-5 category too.

If the extact same options are charged extras on both models, the question is, why are they charged differently?

It does not matter, because you can usually get better deals on the base models if you lease, not so much on the upper models, because the lease terms are better for the base 911s.
 
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Porsche and virtually all other brands include desirable performance options, or cheapen them, on upgraded models to make you rationalize stepping up when you had no such plans to do so. Options and upgrades are obviously at a huge markup, especially in porche's order book. They would rather you buy a 125k 991s in lieu of that 105k base, or that 175k turbo instead of that 125k s.

Turbo's all get valeted so the owners do not need cameras, thus porsche has lowered the cost to entice buyers.
 
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I can understand the options part, but what about the same options on both:


On the Turbo, all the Metallic colors cost 0 extra. On the S, its $710 more.

Odd? or Porsche just knows how to rip people?
 
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Its why they're so profitable.


PORSCHE SAYS KERCHING
How rampant up-selling by dealers underpins Porsche's staggering bottom-line performance.

Porsche is famously known as the world’s most profitable car company, but recent figures released by the company show exactly how profitable: in the first three months of this year it made £13,061 for every car it sold. By contrast, BMW makes about £3,500, according to the Economist.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=27703
 


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