Drove a 458 today...
#47
06-12-2013, 09:26 AM
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Sabine can drive the Nordschleife with her eyes closed. Her time would've been even quicker had her car been equipped with the PDK.
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06-12-2013, 09:27 AM
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#52
06-15-2013, 06:54 AM
Ferrari's have been the ultimate toys and 911s are the ultimate Daily Drivers. My Ferrari friends are almost afraid of putting miles on their cars whereas 100k on a 911 is nothing. IMO the new Ferrari's are trying to become daily drivers and I am not sure I like it. I almost prefer the rawness of the Scuderia over the 458 and use a 911 for DD.
#53
06-15-2013, 07:54 AM
Interesting, indeed. I predict that the PDK will eventually add gears and make the lower gears short for sprints and the extra high gears good for high top speed & better fuel economy. Don't be surprised to see an 8-speed, 9-speed or even 10-speed transmission. Might be a few years, though.
Regardless what EVO had to say about the Jag F-Type, I seriously doubt that their 495-HP top model will beat a Carrera S Cabriolet PDK on any course or even in a standing start drag race. There will be comparison tests coming, to be sure.
Regardless what EVO had to say about the Jag F-Type, I seriously doubt that their 495-HP top model will beat a Carrera S Cabriolet PDK on any course or even in a standing start drag race. There will be comparison tests coming, to be sure.
Article is spot on though w/ regards to the current marketing/media driven obsession with 'ring times, as though that translates to a good driving experience for the vast majority of potential owners. And we only so recently stopped caring so much about 0-60 and quarter times.
#54
06-15-2013, 09:24 AM
ask sabine which she prefers ;-)....
(repost, but worth 7 mins)
porsche gt3rs sabine schmitz vs ferrari 458 italia ron simons - nurburgring - youtube
(repost, but worth 7 mins)
porsche gt3rs sabine schmitz vs ferrari 458 italia ron simons - nurburgring - youtube
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06-15-2013, 09:55 AM
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#56
06-15-2013, 06:35 PM
Perhaps. But sometimes there is a preference of car, disregarding cost as a factor.
#57
06-16-2013, 07:16 AM
Very arrogant post in my opinion.
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
#58
06-16-2013, 07:31 AM
Very arrogant post in my opinion.
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
#59
06-16-2013, 08:52 AM
Very arrogant post in my opinion.
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
As someone who actually owns a Ferrari, and is getting a 991 Turbo S, I can tell you there are different needs at different times in one's life.
I am coming up on my dealer's 458 Spider order list in the next 2-3 months, but will be passing and getting on the future list for the next California.
I love my California very, very much. However, I am looking to replace it before I top 10k miles and there is, to me, no reason to order basically the exact same car again. So, a 458 Spider is out as I want to continue to involve my children (3/5) in my car passion. I have no use for a 2 seater only to tell one of my children that daddy is sorry that you can't come with me today.
So, for me a turbo S is an IDEAL alternative. As fast/faster than the 458, and likely years ahead in build quality and all around daily driving duties. Especially with the nicer daily creature comforts like Burmester, PDCC/PTV.
Just my $0.02, but your comment reminds me of why most people don't like Ferrari or Porsche owners. Thoughts and beliefs of elitism.
J
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06-16-2013, 09:53 AM
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