Thoughts on these 2 cars that I might pull the trigger on: C2S (2) vs C4S
Thoughts on these 3 cars that I might pull the trigger on: C2S (2) vs C4S
The subject says 2 cars but there are 3 actually...
Thanks again for the input on my other thread about dumping my Black Series. I think Im gonna keep that car for a variety of driver involving reasons but will still be getting a Porsche after a short hiatus away (previous: 996TT, 997.1TT, 997.2TT).
So these are three cars which are on the ground locally and have most of the options I like; none are perfect but all can be had for very good prices since they are standard dealer allocation units:
C2S MSRP CIRCA 127k Do you like the Sport Design Kit better than the Aero Kit (next car down)?
630 - Int Light Pkg for Rear Compart
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6 disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSEŠ Surround Sound-System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
653 - Sunroof in glass
640 - Sport Chrono Package
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
176 - Sport Exhaust System
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
XRP - Wheel spacers, 5 mm
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum
XAA - Aerokit Cup
UN1 - Online Services
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
C2S-no PASM- do I need or just lower? MSRP CIRCA 134k
0Q - White
176 - Sport Exhaust System
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
583 - Smoking package
640 - Sport Chrono Package
653 - Sunroof in glass
844 - Multi-function Steering Wheel
998 - Natural Leather Interior
CGJ - Sport Chrono clock dial in Carrara White
CNG - Rear Apron Painted
EER - Interior package painted
NG - Carrera Red natural leather interior
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P37 - BOSEŽ Audio Package
P3D - Premium Package
UN1 - Online Services
XAT - SportDesign package
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum (semi-gloss)
XEX - Bi-Xenon headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XFJ - Instrument dials in White
XYG - Center console trim painted
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
C4S MSRP CIRCA 132k- Wider Stance, wider wheels, AWD, no PSE but that can be fixed easily via Fabspeed.
630 - Light Design Package
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6-disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSE(R) Surround Sound System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
970 - Two-tone leather interior
XRT - 20-inch SportTechno wheel
CAT - Model designation on doors in
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
658 - Power Steering Plus
640 - Sport Chrono Package
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
748 - Electric folding ext. mirrors
651 - Electric sunroof
636 - ParkAssist (front and rear)
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Thanks again for the input on my other thread about dumping my Black Series. I think Im gonna keep that car for a variety of driver involving reasons but will still be getting a Porsche after a short hiatus away (previous: 996TT, 997.1TT, 997.2TT).
So these are three cars which are on the ground locally and have most of the options I like; none are perfect but all can be had for very good prices since they are standard dealer allocation units:
C2S MSRP CIRCA 127k Do you like the Sport Design Kit better than the Aero Kit (next car down)?
630 - Int Light Pkg for Rear Compart
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6 disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSEŠ Surround Sound-System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
653 - Sunroof in glass
640 - Sport Chrono Package
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
176 - Sport Exhaust System
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
XRP - Wheel spacers, 5 mm
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum
XAA - Aerokit Cup
UN1 - Online Services
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
C2S-no PASM- do I need or just lower? MSRP CIRCA 134k
0Q - White
176 - Sport Exhaust System
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
583 - Smoking package
640 - Sport Chrono Package
653 - Sunroof in glass
844 - Multi-function Steering Wheel
998 - Natural Leather Interior
CGJ - Sport Chrono clock dial in Carrara White
CNG - Rear Apron Painted
EER - Interior package painted
NG - Carrera Red natural leather interior
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P37 - BOSEŽ Audio Package
P3D - Premium Package
UN1 - Online Services
XAT - SportDesign package
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum (semi-gloss)
XEX - Bi-Xenon headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XFJ - Instrument dials in White
XYG - Center console trim painted
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
C4S MSRP CIRCA 132k- Wider Stance, wider wheels, AWD, no PSE but that can be fixed easily via Fabspeed.
630 - Light Design Package
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6-disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSE(R) Surround Sound System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
970 - Two-tone leather interior
XRT - 20-inch SportTechno wheel
CAT - Model designation on doors in
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
658 - Power Steering Plus
640 - Sport Chrono Package
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
748 - Electric folding ext. mirrors
651 - Electric sunroof
636 - ParkAssist (front and rear)
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Last edited by Vic55; Jun 25, 2013 at 08:44 PM.
None of the above !! I think that's the reason why you are asking too because it's easy to play Mr Potato head with these three cars .
PASM is IMO a must .
I prefer no areokit on a 991S . On a Turbo or Gt3 I feel an aerokit is a great idea but I feel the 991 is simply too vanilla to spend the money trying to dress it up . At 130K it's Gt3 territory and even nearing Turbo territory.
Car number 1 - I dont understand a glass sunroof with a sport design package . it's mixing both luxury and sport . IMO a sport design means sunroof delete.
Car number 2 -glass sunroof plus aerokit plus no PASM -- This sounds almost like the car is having an identity crisis .
Car number 3 - This is actually the best of the three but in California I would want the 2S over a 4S and at 134K and it has AWD I'd want a Turbo !!
Conclusion - These are high priced 991 cars .. my opinion is order a car and get it exactly the way you want it . It's better to buy no car than buy the wrong car and any doubts on a car at 130K is worth holding out for the right car.
Good luck.
PASM is IMO a must .
I prefer no areokit on a 991S . On a Turbo or Gt3 I feel an aerokit is a great idea but I feel the 991 is simply too vanilla to spend the money trying to dress it up . At 130K it's Gt3 territory and even nearing Turbo territory.
Car number 1 - I dont understand a glass sunroof with a sport design package . it's mixing both luxury and sport . IMO a sport design means sunroof delete.
Car number 2 -glass sunroof plus aerokit plus no PASM -- This sounds almost like the car is having an identity crisis .
Car number 3 - This is actually the best of the three but in California I would want the 2S over a 4S and at 134K and it has AWD I'd want a Turbo !!
Conclusion - These are high priced 991 cars .. my opinion is order a car and get it exactly the way you want it . It's better to buy no car than buy the wrong car and any doubts on a car at 130K is worth holding out for the right car.
Good luck.
The sport PASM is the performance option which can even be fused together with PDCC if one chooses . PASM is stiffer and lower but a low cost performance option on a performance car is (in my opinion) a must have option.
Again, every S model has PASM. SPASM is an option.
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I know this. I said it in my first post . A "must have " means I am referring to the OPTION !!! He even lists it as an OPTION .
I'll just ignore .
I'll just ignore .
This one is easy for me. Get the first one.
It has the must haves. PASM, PDK, PSE, 14-way power seats, sport design steering wheel, 5mm spacers and platinum wheels. Sounds a lot like mine, allthough this one has even more toys.
C2S MSRP CIRCA 127k Do you like the Sport Design Kit better than the Aero Kit (next car down)?
630 - Int Light Pkg for Rear Compart
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6 disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSEŠ Surround Sound-System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
653 - Sunroof in glass
640 - Sport Chrono Package
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
176 - Sport Exhaust System
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
XRP - Wheel spacers, 5 mm
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum
XAA - Aerokit Cup
UN1 - Online Services
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
It has the must haves. PASM, PDK, PSE, 14-way power seats, sport design steering wheel, 5mm spacers and platinum wheels. Sounds a lot like mine, allthough this one has even more toys.
C2S MSRP CIRCA 127k Do you like the Sport Design Kit better than the Aero Kit (next car down)?
630 - Int Light Pkg for Rear Compart
625 - Porsche Entry & Drive
603 - Porsche Dynamic Light System
541 - Seat ventilation (front)
342 - Seat heating (front)
276 - Automatically dimming mirrors
P39 - Prem Pkg Plus w 14-way seats
693 - 6 disc CD/DVD changer
690 - SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
680 - BOSEŠ Surround Sound-System
P37 - BOSEŠ Audio Package
322 - Power Sport seats (left)
ZAB - Ornamental Porsche Crest
P06 - Power Sport Seats (14-way)
840 - SportDesign steering wheel
653 - Sunroof in glass
640 - Sport Chrono Package
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
176 - Sport Exhaust System
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
XRP - Wheel spacers, 5 mm
XDH - Wheels painted Platinum
XAA - Aerokit Cup
UN1 - Online Services
321 - Power Sport seats (right)
Other than if there is an option you must have, the three are basically the same.
Here are the major differences:
Car 1: Partial leather, Ducktail with wing (Aerokit)
Car 2: Full natural leather, Ducktail
Car 3: Full leather, Big ***
Sport PASM only lowers the car another 10 mm for cars with the Duck or Aerokit. They get the SD front which replaces the Sport PASM lip and have a fixed spoiler which replaces the movable spoiler changes affected by Sport PASM. Thus, Car 2 only needs lower springs.
Personally, I would go Car 3. You can always add the Duck or Aerokit to it. The big *** you can't add with 1 or 2.
Here are the major differences:
Car 1: Partial leather, Ducktail with wing (Aerokit)
Car 2: Full natural leather, Ducktail
Car 3: Full leather, Big ***
Sport PASM only lowers the car another 10 mm for cars with the Duck or Aerokit. They get the SD front which replaces the Sport PASM lip and have a fixed spoiler which replaces the movable spoiler changes affected by Sport PASM. Thus, Car 2 only needs lower springs.
Personally, I would go Car 3. You can always add the Duck or Aerokit to it. The big *** you can't add with 1 or 2.
You should get exactly what you want--especially the color combination; unless of course you have money to burn and can trade the car on a whim.
I personally prefer the C2S, as I like the ability to drift the rear every now and then, and I also prefer the sport-design package over the aero kit. But, once again, that's all subjective.
To answer your question: none of the above, unless one of them comes strikingly close to your criteria.
Best of luck with your quest!
I personally prefer the C2S, as I like the ability to drift the rear every now and then, and I also prefer the sport-design package over the aero kit. But, once again, that's all subjective.
To answer your question: none of the above, unless one of them comes strikingly close to your criteria.
Best of luck with your quest!
Thank you again for your time and comments. I came here for opinions and got them which I can only appreciate. I agree I need to order the car but I have some short term plans with this car and the msrp's shown are not what I will pay. I guess this is why ordering with these huge addendums is so necessary.
Thanks for this post.
Can I get some clarity here? So a car with SPASM on a Duck or Aero car only drops it 10mm vs a non Duck non Aero car which would get the 20mm drop (with SPASM)?
So car #3 with SPASM has a 20mm drop and car #1 has a 10mm drop and car #2 runs a stock 991 height?
I just realized car #3 doesnt have the premium package- is this something you all opt for?
Other than if there is an option you must have, the three are basically the same.
Here are the major differences:
Car 1: Partial leather, Ducktail with wing (Aerokit)
Car 2: Full natural leather, Ducktail
Car 3: Full leather, Big ***
Sport PASM only lowers the car another 10 mm for cars with the Duck or Aerokit. They get the SD front which replaces the Sport PASM lip and have a fixed spoiler which replaces the movable spoiler changes affected by Sport PASM. Thus, Car 2 only needs lower springs.
Personally, I would go Car 3. You can always add the Duck or Aerokit to it. The big *** you can't add with 1 or 2.
Here are the major differences:
Car 1: Partial leather, Ducktail with wing (Aerokit)
Car 2: Full natural leather, Ducktail
Car 3: Full leather, Big ***
Sport PASM only lowers the car another 10 mm for cars with the Duck or Aerokit. They get the SD front which replaces the Sport PASM lip and have a fixed spoiler which replaces the movable spoiler changes affected by Sport PASM. Thus, Car 2 only needs lower springs.
Personally, I would go Car 3. You can always add the Duck or Aerokit to it. The big *** you can't add with 1 or 2.
Can I get some clarity here? So a car with SPASM on a Duck or Aero car only drops it 10mm vs a non Duck non Aero car which would get the 20mm drop (with SPASM)?
So car #3 with SPASM has a 20mm drop and car #1 has a 10mm drop and car #2 runs a stock 991 height?
I just realized car #3 doesnt have the premium package- is this something you all opt for?




