Actually, its the only place to put a cell phone if you have a passenger. So, I wouldn't discount "not" getting the smokers package

 

I keep my cell phone in my pocket and use blue tooth to make calls and answer calls. Never have to reach for it or look for it.

 

+1. You can even search your phone book on the console or use voice with that option.

ChuckJ

 

I have deviated stitching in my Jeep SRT 8. Also had it in the Z06. I like the look of it. Not enough though to pay extra for it. Same with the seat belt and chrono colors. Like the idea, but not enough to pay for it.

As for the 4S. The car I test drove was the 4S. I love the steering on it. Sales person let me take it to a parking lot, and simulate autocross type driving with it. After leaving the parking lot, I took off a little too fast at a stop light on a left hand turn. The rear end slid out in some classic oversteer. New to Porsche, it kind of caught my by surprise. Before the back end got dangerously out of place, the 4 wheel drive engaged sent power to the front wheels and very slightly pulled the car straight. Engaged just enough to add safety, but such a small amount that most drivers might not had even noticed. I like that. Especially as someone that has been known to get a little crazy at times on the twisties. I have also had a few occasions in the Z06 where hydro planing got a little scary. I feel the benefit of subtle 4wd kicking in, in that type of situation to be a huge plus for the Porsche.

 

Suzy, I really appreciate your response. Nice to have my thoughts validated

 

I greatly appreciate you bringing that up. I need all the 12 volt plugs I can get. I'll look into this further when I am at the dealership.

 

My concerns about the Carbon Ceramics are: Squealing, cold weather performance, being to grippy vs linear, the price, and the fact that they are yellow.

That said, they are a consideration for me still at this point.

What in my build would you give up, to counter the cost?

Thanks for the input,
Joe

 

AWD definitely adds a safetynet to the car, without ruining its handling. Also, the steering in the C4S is better as in the C2S, because of the extra driveshafts. If you switch the tractioncontrol off, the car lets you play around like a little kid and you don't even notice that you're in a AWD-car, the system is just perfect!
Good to hear from a "non-journalist" that the system works in every condition without interfering too much.

Don't know if you've seen this video about the C4S, but IMO it's brillaint:
You're welcome

PS: regarding the PCCB: unless you are gonna track the car often, I personally wouldn't go for that option. Way too expensive, compared to the benefits you have. Standard brakes are just perfect. Unless you want to pay that much to get rid of the brakedust of course....
And since you say you may end up driving the car almost daily, I would spend that money on options that make your life inside the car even more enjoyable than it already is!

Suzy991

 

Joe- I also hate brake dust and got the PCCB's this time for mainly that reason. However, my last 911 GTS had the gloss black wheels and they showed every drop of brake dust, worse than any other color wheel. Just like a shinny gloss black car shows every spec of dust, the wheels were the same- drove me crazy. My Cayenne diesel has the titanium wheels with the standard brakes and they really hide the brake dust well. I spray the armor all brake dust repellent product on them after a wash and I can go a month before they look bad.

 

Are the titanium wheels closer in color to the stock wheels, or to the Platinum wheels offered on the 991?

Thanks in advance,
Joe

 

I have seen that video. More than once I actually watched it again though after you posted it. Thank you. I am pretty sure I am going to go with the standard brakes, and the Platinum wheels.

 

I love my carbon ceramics. I have had them on two Porsches and my current Ferrari. I have only the occasional squeal. Not very often at all.

As far as what to give up in trade for the price of the PCCBs, there are several ways to go. You could give up the Aerokit Cup and go for the SportDesign front only. Personally for me, an easy decision as I don't like the big spoiler on the back. However, the main money eater is the Powerkit option. True, would be great add on, but not necessary as your C4S stock is faster than my California stock (flame suit on). So, you are still gonna have a beast on your hands.

However, having said all that, you could easily justify it and keep what you have. Especially given all the performance mods you have currently.

I have loved my PCCBs. The grip is AMAZING, and this coming from an owner of a turbo Cayenne without it and my current GTS Panamera without them.

Just my experience.

J

 

Joe- my bad, I meant Platinum, not titanium. Very close to brake dust color.

 

Thank you. That information helps me a lot.

 

Hi Joe. What probably kicked in was Porsche Stability Management and corrected the slight oversteer. In those situations, 4WD doesn't help correct oversteer as far as I know. It's probably just a little harder to induce oversteer with the 4S than the 2S.