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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeInDallas
I have deviated stitching in my Jeep SRT 8. Also had it in the Z06. I like the look of it. Not enough though to pay extra for it. Same with the seat belt and chrono colors. Like the idea, but not enough to pay for it.

As for the 4S. The car I test drove was the 4S. I love the steering on it. Sales person let me take it to a parking lot, and simulate autocross type driving with it. After leaving the parking lot, I took off a little too fast at a stop light on a left hand turn. The rear end slid out in some classic oversteer. New to Porsche, it kind of caught my by surprise. Before the back end got dangerously out of place, the 4 wheel drive engaged sent power to the front wheels and very slightly pulled the car straight. Engaged just enough to add safety, but such a small amount that most drivers might not had even noticed. I like that. Especially as someone that has been known to get a little crazy at times on the twisties. I have also had a few occasions in the Z06 where hydro planing got a little scary. I feel the benefit of subtle 4wd kicking in, in that type of situation to be a huge plus for the Porsche.
I do suggest that before you finalize it drive the 2S too . I say this because i feel that unless one lives in an extreme weather climate (rain or snow) the 2S is more nimble, agile, and (IMO) fun. I happen to own a Turbo and if I had to state the biggest negative it's that the car lacks the cornering agility of a rear wheel drive 911 . With a turbo it's needed only because on public roads a gt2 might be a little harder to manage . The HP of the Turbo is immense so AWD does plant the car but does not make it tossable . As for the hydroplaning Z06 .. yes a 4S will certainly do fantastic in the rain but the 2S will not be as uncontrollable in wet as a Z06 .

I do feel that the reason why Porsche chose the Gt2 and Gt3 as rear wheel drive cars reflects what they deem as the most controllable performance configuration .

In earlier models the 4S cars were overall less common . Many of the forum members who bought them in dry climates tended to emphasize that it was the widebody aesthetics that they found appealing . For example a 4S cabriolet sure looks pretty but who drives a convertible in the snow ?( well maybe Santa Claus) .. but in all seriousness please test drive a few cars . also test drive a used Turbo if you can .

This way when you place the final vote down you have sampled all the choices .

Good luck.
 
Old Jul 8, 2013 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LPB987S
Hi Joe. What probably kicked in was Porsche Stability Management and corrected the slight oversteer. In those situations, 4WD doesn't help correct oversteer as far as I know. It's probably just a little harder to induce oversteer with the 4S than the 2S.
I think you should do some better research...
AWD does absolutely help in those situations. Very simple explanation: Oversteer means that the back of the car wants to overtake the front in a corner. So if you pull harder on the front, the back automatically has to line up again.
So in an AWD system like that from Porsche the car only shifts power to the front (even can assigns which wheel needs most of the power) if it is needed. This system constantly measures the situation and interrupts only if needed. It works flawless together with the PSM.
Most of the time it is just like a C2S, rearwheel driven. It gives you enough room to play with the car, before it interrupts, if you're in Sport mode. You can also switch off traction control completely and burn you rear tyres up in 5 minutes if you want. The system is that clever that it knows what you're up to.

So on te question if it was the PSM or the AWD... It definitely was the AWD that saved him in that situation. Of course it works together with the PSM, so you are not completely wrong

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:03 AM
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I would skip the park assist.

I have it and I don't think it is of much use.

Perhaps I just haven't figured out how it works. Yesterday I hit a curb. It was probably making some noise but it didn't attract my attention. It goes off when I back out of the garage for some reason so maybe I have just gotten use to ignoring it.
 
Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gulrey22
I would skip the park assist.

I have it and I don't think it is of much use.
I'm on the other end and find it very useful. I have to pull in to a covered carport next to our garage at an angle. It helps me from rubbing against the garage wall.

Me, I use it. Some may never need it. If in doubt, get it, it won't hurt your checkbook much.
 
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
I think you should do some better research...
AWD does absolutely help in those situations. Very simple explanation: Oversteer means that the back of the car wants to overtake the front in a corner. So if you pull harder on the front, the back automatically has to line up again.
So in an AWD system like that from Porsche the car only shifts power to the front (even can assigns which wheel needs most of the power) if it is needed. This system constantly measures the situation and interrupts only if needed. It works flawless together with the PSM.
Most of the time it is just like a C2S, rearwheel driven. It gives you enough room to play with the car, before it interrupts, if you're in Sport mode. You can also switch off traction control completely and burn you rear tyres up in 5 minutes if you want. The system is that clever that it knows what you're up to.

So on te question if it was the PSM or the AWD... It definitely was the AWD that saved him in that situation. Of course it works together with the PSM, so you are not completely wrong

Suzy991

That makes sense Suzy. Thanks!
 
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