Brown "dots" under clear coat at delivery
#106
09-22-2013, 01:21 PM
New member here. Picked up Guards red C4S about a week ago. Count me as affected. Noticed white spots that appear under clear coat in several places. Almost looks like when water and gas mix. Cannot feel any irregularity to clear coat. Should I contact dealer I purchased from first or just go straight to Porsche NA?
#107
09-22-2013, 01:48 PM
Hi Southwest,
Welcome. Sorry to hear it. At first glance, this does not look like the brown spot plague that is the topic of this thread. It may be something new that is occurring under the clear coat, but it almost looks like it may be etching in the clear coat. I've see. Brand new cars sit outside at dealerships parked perfectly under the target zone for birds to plaster the paint. All while the car sits awaiting the per- delivery detail. My detailed had to buff out something similar due to pre-delivery bird droppings on my E92 M3, but it can possibly be corrected. The " brown spots" cannot be buffed out, and require a case to be opened with PCNA. I would contact them either way before going back to the dealership. It is a disappointment on an otherwise awesome car.
Welcome. Sorry to hear it. At first glance, this does not look like the brown spot plague that is the topic of this thread. It may be something new that is occurring under the clear coat, but it almost looks like it may be etching in the clear coat. I've see. Brand new cars sit outside at dealerships parked perfectly under the target zone for birds to plaster the paint. All while the car sits awaiting the per- delivery detail. My detailed had to buff out something similar due to pre-delivery bird droppings on my E92 M3, but it can possibly be corrected. The " brown spots" cannot be buffed out, and require a case to be opened with PCNA. I would contact them either way before going back to the dealership. It is a disappointment on an otherwise awesome car.
#108
09-22-2013, 02:13 PM
Hi Southwest,
Welcome. Sorry to hear it. At first glance, this does not look like the brown spot plague that is the topic of this thread. It may be something new that is occurring under the clear coat, but it almost looks like it may be etching in the clear coat. I've see. Brand new cars sit outside at dealerships parked perfectly under the target zone for birds to plaster the paint. All while the car sits awaiting the per- delivery detail. My detailed had to buff out something similar due to pre-delivery bird droppings on my E92 M3, but it can possibly be corrected. The " brown spots" cannot be buffed out, and require a case to be opened with PCNA. I would contact them either way before going back to the dealership. It is a disappointment on an otherwise awesome car.
Welcome. Sorry to hear it. At first glance, this does not look like the brown spot plague that is the topic of this thread. It may be something new that is occurring under the clear coat, but it almost looks like it may be etching in the clear coat. I've see. Brand new cars sit outside at dealerships parked perfectly under the target zone for birds to plaster the paint. All while the car sits awaiting the per- delivery detail. My detailed had to buff out something similar due to pre-delivery bird droppings on my E92 M3, but it can possibly be corrected. The " brown spots" cannot be buffed out, and require a case to be opened with PCNA. I would contact them either way before going back to the dealership. It is a disappointment on an otherwise awesome car.
At any rate, this is an amazing car which I hope to enjoy for many years. I will try and get some pictures and details posted in the near future. Great resource this forum.
#109
09-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Yes it was smooth and only visible in certain light situations at various angles the way it reflected the etching, but very noticeable at the right light/angle. A skilled detailer can usually correct this type of paint issue and make it look like it was never there. However, if it is something deeper, beneath the clear coat like a factory defect, it's best to get PCNA involved early IMO.
#110
09-22-2013, 04:57 PM
As a new member and soon to be owner, this thread scares the hell out of me! I've been reading it since it first started. I'm a detailing buff (hence the black choice 
). These white spots look like water spots and can likely be buffed out. You may have to have it wet sanded first, but have the detailer try the least aggressive approach first.
The brown spots under the clear coat, are just plain madness and I can't imagine what some of you owners are going through. As has been said before, these defects are unacceptable on any brand new car, especially one costing so much, arrggg.
). These white spots look like water spots and can likely be buffed out. You may have to have it wet sanded first, but have the detailer try the least aggressive approach first.The brown spots under the clear coat, are just plain madness and I can't imagine what some of you owners are going through. As has been said before, these defects are unacceptable on any brand new car, especially one costing so much, arrggg.
#111
10-18-2013, 03:14 PM
Anybody come up with a satisfactory solution to the brown spot epidemic? At the start of this post, I had one brown spot. In cleaning to car today in bright sunlight I see an additional 2-3. For those who called PCNA was there any resolution? What were they willing or unwilling to do? Thanks.
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