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I know what you mean, but it's still a GTR--most of the people buying this car wouldn't be caught dead in a GTR, no matter how fast it is. I always find these hyper cars, if successful, have a mix of beauty, cutting edge technology, performance and exclusivity. And that's what the buyers are after and they change out of these cars, like my wife does handbags 
I would say the buyers are not much different than many of us 991 owners, but they just have much bigger wallets (and that says a lot, because some of you guys ain't hurtin' My kids are getting use to the Raman noodles, my wife just keeps telling them, "daddy has a bad addiction" haha--I'm kidding of course I let them have mac & cheese).
I could have bought a faster car than my c2s, but nothing else in the market checked all the other boxes, YMMV.
I would say the buyers are not much different than many of us 991 owners, but they just have much bigger wallets (and that says a lot, because some of you guys ain't hurtin'
My kids are getting use to the Raman noodles, my wife just keeps telling them, "daddy has a bad addiction" haha--I'm kidding of course I let them have mac & cheese). I could have bought a faster car than my c2s, but nothing else in the market checked all the other boxes, YMMV.
No absolutely not!
Just dealing in numbers, that's all!!
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I'm curious, what is more advanced about this car than a LaFerrari or P1?
I was under the impression they've all done pretty much the same thing (on a high level overview).
I was under the impression they've all done pretty much the same thing (on a high level overview).
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The La Ferrari will probably be beyond the 918 in performance and technology.
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Ah... Thanks! I haven't been on top of these cars, because I have zero intention of owning either one. I'll probably wait for the trickle-down effect of that R&D into street cars that I WILL consider purchasing. So I guess, it helps to know which is which while they are still in that first phase (high end exotic line).
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McLaren won't publish the P1's ring numbers but they're rumoured to be 10 to 20 seconds under the 918. The the Ferrari hasn't run an official ring test yet.
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They all better beat a 7:08. I'd be terminally embarrassed if either of those does not beat that time. Just sayin'...
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Weissach package IS street trim and from the factory vs some NISMO parts that must be installed after sale. Porsche says there is more in it. It is clearly superior to the Nismo GT-R. Who is comparing now? ;-)
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The GT-R nismo comes WITH all of those NISMO parts. It is the BASE GT-R that doesn't add all of those pieces, suspension, engine, etc... (and still not the same internal components). They are two VERY different models (i.e. V6 Challenger vs SRT-8).
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Roger. I'm familiar with that package, but it is not the common trim level. They are optional components on a base car.
The GT-R nismo comes WITH all of those NISMO parts. It is the BASE GT-R that doesn't add all of those pieces, suspension, engine, etc... (and still not the same internal components). They are two VERY different models (i.e. V6 Challenger vs SRT-8).
The GT-R nismo comes WITH all of those NISMO parts. It is the BASE GT-R that doesn't add all of those pieces, suspension, engine, etc... (and still not the same internal components). They are two VERY different models (i.e. V6 Challenger vs SRT-8).
Also it shares the power train so the V6 to SRT example isn't accurate. :-)
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Not per C&D:http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news The parts on top of the Nismo package used for The Ring time are additional and not factory added.
Also it shares the power train so the V6 to SRT example isn't accurate. :-)
Also it shares the power train so the V6 to SRT example isn't accurate. :-)
There is a HUGE deviation from the base GT-R and the NISMO trim level (along with a speculative 50% price increase).
My comment was based on - these cars BETTER outperform a Nissan that costs a fraction of what they are asking.
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In the end none of this will deter future owners from buying these incredible machines and McLaren has sold all of their state side allocations.
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I'm a huge fan of McLaren but, their best time was 7.04 and they have yet to attain the numbers that boss Ron Dennis suggested would crush the competition. There's quite a bit of controversy surrounding the fact that McLaren has recently declared that ring times are no longer important, especially since he asserted that the P1 would clearly be the best handling car amongst the 3, LaFerrari and 918. Since ring times are no longer relevant to McLaren, the assumption is that they can't do better than 7.04 and therefore cannot beat Porsche. I doubt Ferrari will conduct a ring time, unless they are sure of besting Porsche. ...
Considering there are only 499 LaFerraris going to be made, I doubt they need to sell anymore either...
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I don't want to take this off-topic, the wing height was slightly higher (there was a track pack option). But the trim level was GT-R nismo - and the engine IS different from the base trim level - another 50HP, bigger turbos, inlets, etc..., as well as the chassis itself, suspension, etc...
There is a HUGE deviation from the base GT-R and the NISMO trim level (along with a speculative 50% price increase).
My comment was based on - these cars BETTER outperform a Nissan that costs a fraction of what they are asking.
There is a HUGE deviation from the base GT-R and the NISMO trim level (along with a speculative 50% price increase).
My comment was based on - these cars BETTER outperform a Nissan that costs a fraction of what they are asking.
" its own aero kit with a front splitter and an extra-bodacious rear spoiler. A smattering of carbon fiber parts—single-piece race seats that Nissan says will come here as accessories, front fenders, trunklid, and hood—sheds a claimed 143 pounds overall.
To top it off, the “track package” model receives additional chassis tweaks made in large part to cope with the Nürburgring’s uneven surface. The electronically controlled shocks are replaced by manually adjustable Öhlins units, and the spring rates are reduced slightly.
NISMO promises that buyers will be able to order a car like the one that ran the 7:08.68 for less than $200,000."
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