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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 03:42 AM
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Black Wheels - which cleaning products?

So, I bought a `15 991 GTS after selling my P4S and turning in the leased 991 C4. The GTS is black with black leather interior and matte black center lock wheels...very mean looking. I've got good cleaning products for the car, but I'm not sure of what is recommended for the matte-finished wheels. Recommendations? Thanks.
 
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The wheels are satin black, not matte black. I always just use the same car wash that I use on my car. I wash the car first of course, then the wheels. I have never trusted the wheel cleaners on my wheels. Since most wheels are a painted finish, I don't use anything on them that I wouldn't use on the car. I have a 991 GTS with the CL wheels that you have and this works well for me. I also had a 997 GTS with black CL wheels, but they were gloss finish, and the regular car wash water worked fine on those also.
 
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The wheels are satin black, not matte black. I always just use the same car wash that I use on my car. I wash the car first of course, then the wheels. I have never trusted the wheel cleaners on my wheels. Since most wheels are a painted finish, I don't use anything on them that I wouldn't use on the car. I have a 991 GTS with the CL wheels that you have and this works well for me. I also had a 997 GTS with black CL wheels, but they were gloss finish, and the regular car wash water worked fine on those also.
The wheels should be the first thing you wash, not the last, reason being if you clean wheels last, you will get your clean car dirty again from all the gunk from the wheels.

As for cleaning products, I would use the same stuff I used on my other wheels. I hear Sonax is very good - purchased some but haven't used it yet.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I use a lot of product from The Chemical Guys, including their car wash concentrate, quick detailing, rinseless, and water-less products. So far, I have used their quick detailing and water-less "wash" products on the car itself. I used the water-less wash on the wheels as well. Because it's been terribly hot and sunny (not really a complaint), I've been cleaning the car inside the garage. As it's been said, black is a career.
 
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Originally Posted by PorscheCrazy
The wheels should be the first thing you wash, not the last, reason being if you clean wheels last, you will get your clean car dirty again from all the gunk from the wheels.
Not if you use the same water for your car as your wheels. You sure don't want to wash your wheels first and get all that grime in your wash water for your car. I have never gotten my car dirty when I clean my wheels last. Maybe if I used some type of spray cleaner on them, but I don't use that stuff. I have seen friends use spray wheel cleaner and I have never been satisfied with the results. I have never seen it get the wheels as clean as washing with soap and water.
 
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Not if you use the same water for your car as your wheels. You sure don't want to wash your wheels first and get all that grime in your wash water for your car. I have never gotten my car dirty when I clean my wheels last. Maybe if I used some type of spray cleaner on them, but I don't use that stuff. I have seen friends use spray wheel cleaner and I have never been satisfied with the results. I have never seen it get the wheels as clean as washing with soap and water.
+1

I've been there, done that and bought all of the spray junk on the market.
A long brush, a clean cloth and soap and water work.

The trick is to wash it often and not let it get baked on.
 
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And don't clean them when they are hot. Make sure they are cool to the touch.
 
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...also I use a sock. Put it on like a glove and use any cleaning product you want. Makes it easy to get into tight spots. Saw a detailer use it years ago and asked him about it, he said forget all the fancy scrub products the sock allows him to do a much better job cheaper. Use an old one than throw it out after use.
 
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I use both methods. I use either Sonax or 1ZEinszett wheel cleaner first. Both are great and are ph neutral and won't harm painted wheels. Let it sit for 3-5 minutes and hose off. Most of the dirt and brake dust is gone so simple cleaning afterword.

I use a foam cannon for the car and do the wheels a second time with the wash after the car is done using a soft cloth or sponge and they are spotless. The wheel cleaner really loosens the brake dust and keeps from having to scrub painted wheels.
 
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I found Sonax's & Adam's wheel cleaner is the best and doesn't harm any finish. @Leslierc, I think we live close to each other, I could give you some sample of them to try on your own.

And PLEASE do not use the same wash bucket for your car & the wheel!! When doing traditional wash, you should always wash the wheel first (using a "wheel bucket"). When doing a waterless wash, wheel last, but NEVER dip the dirty towel back into the bucket! Do a search of Garry Dean Wash Method from YouTube for a proper & save waterless wash way.
 

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Originally Posted by PorscheCrazy
The wheels should be the first thing you wash, not the last, reason being if you clean wheels last, you will get your clean car dirty again from all the gunk from the wheels.
Sorry, that makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Originally Posted by rnl
The trick is to wash it often and not let it get baked on.
+1 for the entire car, not just wheels.

Originally Posted by landshark
And PLEASE do not use the same wash bucket for your car & the wheel!
I disagree, with the caveat that I wash the car first, and then use the slightly dirty wash water to clean the wheel.

To answer the OP, I use Griot's wheel cleaner, which looks and smells and acts the same as P21S wheel cleaner. Great stuff, not too expensive. Use a dedicated sponge/brush/whatever for the wheel, because it will get nasty.
 
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I also use the same auto wash shampoo I use on the rest of my car. I have a mix of the shampoo and water in a separate squirt bottle for use on my wheels.

Once or twice a year I remove and wax my wheels and calipers with a polymer sealant (any will do. don't waste your money on expensive stuff) as they are durable and heat resistant. They make your wheels MUCH easier to clean as the brake dust doesn't stick.

The car wash shampoo is strong enough to remove the brake dust and won't degrade the wax you coated onto your wheels and calipers. Almost all wheel cleaners will quickly eat through your wax.

My strategy is to never use any chemical stronger than what you really need.
 
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I will sometimes use a wheel spray as a pre-wash. Spray them, wash the car, then wash the wheels. Rinse. Has worked well on all of my cars.
 
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My brother has the black 19" matte black wheels on his '10 4S and he uses PS tire dressing to clean the rims and keep them looking new. They always look perfect. Easy to use and easy to wipe off.
 
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