Are the 993s good track cars?
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TRACK - Match made in Heaven
Standard upgrades along with an Oil Cooler and some sticky rubber, your Golden
Are they reliable? Without abuse how long do the clutches usually last? If I were to buy a low mile example what would I be looking at to get the car into track shape? Do the head gaskets have a tendency to leak the way I believe the 964's do?
Only problems I've ran into with the 993 Turbo is;
Lower Valve Gasket leak, Lifter replacements on the lowers, Belts on the Alternator, and other issue's that where cosmetic. Clutches depend on the driver, and Valves tend to go. Rebuilds happen anywhere from 75-100,000 miles and are expensive. They require some maintenance but are very very rewarding. All the above where DIY and where fun and easy.
In comparison my 997 cost me 3 oil changes (DIY) and 1 set of tires for the rear, roughly 1500.
The 993 1 set of Tires for the rear, 4 oil changes (DIY), belts etc etc etc. Roughly 3500 or so. When I go for a drive to relax you will always find me in the 993. It's an event going out in it, better sound track, a more visceral experience. No TC, No Radio, No A/C, harder effort for the steering, Pedals come up from the floor giving a different feel, Throttle by a real wire, long shifter throw. JUST AWESOME driving the thing.
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Lower Valve Gasket leak, Lifter replacements on the lowers, Belts on the Alternator, and other issue's that where cosmetic. Clutches depend on the driver, and Valves tend to go. Rebuilds happen anywhere from 75-100,000 miles and are expensive. They require some maintenance but are very very rewarding. All the above where DIY and where fun and easy.
In comparison my 997 cost me 3 oil changes (DIY) and 1 set of tires for the rear, roughly 1500.
The 993 1 set of Tires for the rear, 4 oil changes (DIY), belts etc etc etc. Roughly 3500 or so. When I go for a drive to relax you will always find me in the 993. It's an event going out in it, better sound track, a more visceral experience. No TC, No Radio, No A/C, harder effort for the steering, Pedals come up from the floor giving a different feel, Throttle by a real wire, long shifter throw. JUST AWESOME driving the thing.
997 is more precise, crisp, German...
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My narrow body stock 3.6L car has yet to lose to any 911 turbo on track for a lot of reasons including a trick suspension and perfect alignment/corner balance, but if you are new to driving 911's it will take plenty of seat time to be able to push the car to the outside of the envelope and throw some killer lap times.
FYI: My original clutch has 103,000 miles with lots of track time since 70,000 mi and is still engaging as good as ever, but I do have a new one and new flywheel standing by in my garage just in case it finally gives up.
ZP44
FYI: My original clutch has 103,000 miles with lots of track time since 70,000 mi and is still engaging as good as ever, but I do have a new one and new flywheel standing by in my garage just in case it finally gives up.
ZP44
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Does one of the best sports cars in the WOLRD, make a good track car? HELL YEA!
They are reliable, you got to keep the oil fresh, & keep up on maintenance, you will have VERY little problems. About the only other track car of this vintage would be a BMW M3, as parts are cheaper, but the car will be slower on track.
This past weekend, I beat a modified 996 GT3, with my STOCK 1995 993 C4, with almost 100,000kmi. Got just over 1 sec on him.
I would steer clear of a turbo for track, they are harder to drive, will need more maintaince, are in general much more expensive. On short tight tracks you will be beat by much lesser cars. Get a NB, gut it, do RS suspension pieces with good shocks, you will be amazed by how fast it is! Races are won in the corners, not the straights.
Does one of the best sports cars in the WOLRD, make a good track car? HELL YEA!
They are reliable, you got to keep the oil fresh, & keep up on maintenance, you will have VERY little problems. About the only other track car of this vintage would be a BMW M3, as parts are cheaper, but the car will be slower on track.
This past weekend, I beat a modified 996 GT3, with my STOCK 1995 993 C4, with almost 100,000kmi. Got just over 1 sec on him.
I would steer clear of a turbo for track, they are harder to drive, will need more maintaince, are in general much more expensive. On short tight tracks you will be beat by much lesser cars. Get a NB, gut it, do RS suspension pieces with good shocks, you will be amazed by how fast it is! Races are won in the corners, not the straights.
Gearing is everything
I just wanted to make a quick addition to everyone's very good statements on the 993 Track car option.
I think that these cars are some of the best Porsches made to date, they have a very good following and have a look to them that really sets them apart from others.
In working with several 993 owners, one thing that was noticed is the need for different gearing options to really make this car come alive on the track. This is not a cheap option, but the results are incredible. Gearing this car down a bit for the track will really make this a very enjoyable car to drive, and I would certainly recommend getting a OS Giken LSD in there too.
As with any track car there will be a learning curve, but I would say that once you get used to driving the 993 aggressively on the track, it will soon become a favorite.
Let me know if I can help at all.
Erik Johnson
GBox Performance Transaxle
(303) 440-8899 work
(303) 895-4828 cell
www.gboxweb.com
I think that these cars are some of the best Porsches made to date, they have a very good following and have a look to them that really sets them apart from others.
In working with several 993 owners, one thing that was noticed is the need for different gearing options to really make this car come alive on the track. This is not a cheap option, but the results are incredible. Gearing this car down a bit for the track will really make this a very enjoyable car to drive, and I would certainly recommend getting a OS Giken LSD in there too.
As with any track car there will be a learning curve, but I would say that once you get used to driving the 993 aggressively on the track, it will soon become a favorite.
Let me know if I can help at all.
Erik Johnson
GBox Performance Transaxle
(303) 440-8899 work
(303) 895-4828 cell
www.gboxweb.com
the 993 C2 or even C4, narrow body car are simply perfect at the track.
At this point though, i'd buy a 996. You have to drive the 992 10/10s to get by a 'ok' driver in a prepped '02 C2 per-say.
When you look at lap time vs. dollars spent. The 996 is the way to go...
Drive both and decide from there. Because the 993 just is a much better car to drive on the edge. Shorter wheel base is fun!
At this point though, i'd buy a 996. You have to drive the 992 10/10s to get by a 'ok' driver in a prepped '02 C2 per-say.
When you look at lap time vs. dollars spent. The 996 is the way to go...
Drive both and decide from there. Because the 993 just is a much better car to drive on the edge. Shorter wheel base is fun!
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