JRZ vs Moton
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JRZ vs Moton
I was all ready to buy some motons, then I looked around to see that the JRZ's are on several race teams winning cars, especially Porsches.
Is there any reason to justify the very steep price increment from JRZ to Moton? I know the Moton prices have decreased somewhat recently but they are still more expensive than the JRZ, which if it's on Randy Pobsts' car, is surely good enough for me.
I'm going to get one or the other before next season and was going with Moton's because of the high regard for them, but I'm starting to think the Moton's arent worth the difference.
Is there any reason to justify the very steep price increment from JRZ to Moton? I know the Moton prices have decreased somewhat recently but they are still more expensive than the JRZ, which if it's on Randy Pobsts' car, is surely good enough for me.
I'm going to get one or the other before next season and was going with Moton's because of the high regard for them, but I'm starting to think the Moton's arent worth the difference.
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I only sell Motons, so I am partial, but I can say that most people in the business will agree with me that any level of Motons will outperform the JRZs. Although the technology is similar, the end product is in my opinion superior. The second most important part is the support and customer service. I can tell you that it is the best in the business. Moton guarantees their product to be free of defects for 1 year and the support and replacement parts are available here in the US. If you have more questions please call me or you can also talk to Lex @ Moton, his number is 770.886.8777.
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I have had an amazing experience with my JRZs and have even had Mike Levitas himself help me out a bit with the tuning of the car...the shocks are simply PHENOMENAL and the car has surprised many on the track (As in beat a gt3 driven by a great driver with motons at the last clubrace.
I think JRZ and Moton are honestly nearly directly comparable as far as real world performance...if you want the next level, get Penske to machine something special for you. In no way shape or form do I see Motons as better than JRZs or visa versa...
I also use JRZs swaybars (5 way adj) and they are equally as phenomenal.
I think JRZ and Moton are honestly nearly directly comparable as far as real world performance...if you want the next level, get Penske to machine something special for you. In no way shape or form do I see Motons as better than JRZs or visa versa...
I also use JRZs swaybars (5 way adj) and they are equally as phenomenal.
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I believe alot has too do with what level of the respective shocks you are using.
We started with the JRZ 3 ways and converted to the four ways. Both systems are a worlds difference from the standard Moton and JRZ's used on most of the street Porsche's. Both of these systems are adjustable at the canisters for different functions. We took our system a step further and made them adjustable "on the fly." This is right at the drivers seat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the principles of JRZ and Moton from the same company, JRZ, in the beginning. I can say from experience the older JRZ's tended to need rebuilds after about a years time because they started leaking. Over the last few years they have fixed this issue. In addition the older ones can have the upper cylinders retrofitted with the new seals that have remedied the old problems.
As for judging any race teams performance based solely on the coil overs they use is a hugh mistake. There is so much more to the handling of these cars than just the coil overs being used. Although the manufacturer's would like the general public to think otherwise.
We started with the JRZ 3 ways and converted to the four ways. Both systems are a worlds difference from the standard Moton and JRZ's used on most of the street Porsche's. Both of these systems are adjustable at the canisters for different functions. We took our system a step further and made them adjustable "on the fly." This is right at the drivers seat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the principles of JRZ and Moton from the same company, JRZ, in the beginning. I can say from experience the older JRZ's tended to need rebuilds after about a years time because they started leaking. Over the last few years they have fixed this issue. In addition the older ones can have the upper cylinders retrofitted with the new seals that have remedied the old problems.
As for judging any race teams performance based solely on the coil overs they use is a hugh mistake. There is so much more to the handling of these cars than just the coil overs being used. Although the manufacturer's would like the general public to think otherwise.
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I believe alot has too do with what level of the respective shocks you are using.
We started with the JRZ 3 ways and converted to the four ways. Both systems are a worlds difference from the standard Moton and JRZ's used on most of the street Porsche's. Both of these systems are adjustable at the canisters for different functions. We took our system a step further and made them adjustable "on the fly." This is right at the drivers seat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the principles of JRZ and Moton from the same company, JRZ, in the beginning. I can say from experience the older JRZ's tended to need rebuilds after about a years time because they started leaking. Over the last few years they have fixed this issue. In addition the older ones can have the upper cylinders retrofitted with the new seals that have remedied the old problems.
As for judging any race teams performance based solely on the coil overs they use is a hugh mistake. There is so much more to the handling of these cars than just the coil overs being used. Although the manufacturer's would like the general public to think otherwise.
We started with the JRZ 3 ways and converted to the four ways. Both systems are a worlds difference from the standard Moton and JRZ's used on most of the street Porsche's. Both of these systems are adjustable at the canisters for different functions. We took our system a step further and made them adjustable "on the fly." This is right at the drivers seat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the principles of JRZ and Moton from the same company, JRZ, in the beginning. I can say from experience the older JRZ's tended to need rebuilds after about a years time because they started leaking. Over the last few years they have fixed this issue. In addition the older ones can have the upper cylinders retrofitted with the new seals that have remedied the old problems.
As for judging any race teams performance based solely on the coil overs they use is a hugh mistake. There is so much more to the handling of these cars than just the coil overs being used. Although the manufacturer's would like the general public to think otherwise.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the principles of JRZ and Moton from the same company, JRZ, in the beginning. I can say from experience the older JRZ's tended to need rebuilds after about a years time because they started leaking. Over the last few years they have fixed this issue. In addition the older ones can have the upper cylinders retrofitted with the new seals that have remedied the old problems.
As for judging any race teams performance based solely on the coil overs they use is a hugh mistake. There is so much more to the handling of these cars than just the coil overs being used. Although the manufacturer's would like the general public to think otherwise.
I know that using racing teams to judge, may be off, but just the fact that they are being used in the same league, and on winning cars, is good enough for me.
I'm almost certainly going with JRZ, seeing them on the Randy Pobst car did it for me. Guess I'm a fanboy now.
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Sure most of the Cup Cars run Motons.
I met up with Jerome at his Moton factory in Holland and was given the guided tour, OMG it was amazing! sold me, lol
The best person to ask would be Fabryce
I met up with Jerome at his Moton factory in Holland and was given the guided tour, OMG it was amazing! sold me, lol
The best person to ask would be Fabryce
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Race teams have so much flexibility. They can modify mounting points, if they are sponsored by JRZ (or whoever) they can get custom valving etc.. on their setups. Not that any of that is bad, but you don't always get the same thing the race teams use.
That being said, I ran JIC's on my Cayman and just coudn't imagine the Motons being worth nearly 2K more than what was to me an already expensive setup at 3K. I would let your budget make the call here. I very seriously doubt you will be underwhelmed or dissapointed with either. In fact, I am sure you will be thrilled!
That being said, I ran JIC's on my Cayman and just coudn't imagine the Motons being worth nearly 2K more than what was to me an already expensive setup at 3K. I would let your budget make the call here. I very seriously doubt you will be underwhelmed or dissapointed with either. In fact, I am sure you will be thrilled!
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Race teams have so much flexibility. They can modify mounting points, if they are sponsored by JRZ (or whoever) they can get custom valving etc.. on their setups. Not that any of that is bad, but you don't always get the same thing the race teams use.
That being said, I ran JIC's on my Cayman and just coudn't imagine the Motons being worth nearly 2K more than what was to me an already expensive setup at 3K. I would let your budget make the call here. I very seriously doubt you will be underwhelmed or dissapointed with either. In fact, I am sure you will be thrilled!
That being said, I ran JIC's on my Cayman and just coudn't imagine the Motons being worth nearly 2K more than what was to me an already expensive setup at 3K. I would let your budget make the call here. I very seriously doubt you will be underwhelmed or dissapointed with either. In fact, I am sure you will be thrilled!
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moton and JRZ are much much MUCH MUCH better than JIC. not even remotely close.
moton and JRZ technology are very close, but moton' service is unbelievable. i have had 3 sets of motons on three cars. i love them.
moton and JRZ technology are very close, but moton' service is unbelievable. i have had 3 sets of motons on three cars. i love them.
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What exactly is better about them, and I'm talking about the handling now, not the build.
